RAY VEIRHELLER!!! Barberton, OH.

Vague answers... so that means every person in this topic casts doubt.

Private message me your number and we can discuss this further. No benefit airing this out on the forum as its really nit any of your business, let alone everyone else.

JB

 

First of all if you have a vested interest in the site to make sure your users don't get screwed, then I would think that would be all the more reason to message me to hear what I have to say. So I give you the driver and what bracket class we run and where. We race 2-3 times per year locally and typically test and tune. What will that change knowing about my race team. a pic of the car driver name or whatever, you will just dream up another that statement that you think can't be true.

I simply got on here to give a couple of facts when others got here saying Ray was scamming to pay them back.

 

Block this IP address already!!!

Block his ass already. Clearly is ray. Poor ray! He's a scam artist looking for attention. Again this should be a warning to all racers , Never buy anything from Barberton , Akron Ohio! He's full of shit. All lies! He doesn't own anything! Goes to the track and watch racing , might own that bleacher seat for the night , maybe that cold beer but that's all he owns. This is a joke. Nobody feels bad for him.

 

Ok I wanted to do this privately, but I got the drivers permission to post and the last 3 times the car has been out, 2 trips to norwalk for test n tune and a trip to quaker city the driver of the car was Ray. Are you happy now? Probably not.

68 camaro tube car, bright red, 555 chevy with spray.

Jay 70 at what point did I ever imply I felt bad for Ray? Poor Ray?

JB

 

I agree with Will, if Mr. Billington is a real person and his real name is Jack Billington, I would think that he could PM his physical street address to anyone on ITA and set up a face to face meeting to air Mr. Billington's views and beliefs on RV. I don't see why he would NOT be willing to do that. It would solve several issues. I also would think that he probably has a driver's license and could produce that to prove that he is who he says he is. I see no problem with that, either. If someone thought Will or any ITA member was make-believe we would be willing to prove who we were, no problem. We have nothing to hide.
SO, Jack, would you PM me your physical address so I or another ITA member can come to your house and spend some quality one on one time with you to sort this all out. Nothing violent or confrontational, just wanting to help identify the players in the RV situation.
Just trying to help you.
Stay in touch.
Barry

 

Hmmmmm

I guess the authorities put Ole' Ray in the pokey by mistake. I mean, who knew there could have been misunderstandings with so many people? I guess the bogus tool sponsorship deal was just a mix-up too?...Uh huh..Right Jack...I mean Ray...I mean...*L0L*. Enough!...I'm done

 

Hold up!!!!

Listen up JACK!!. Myself along with everyone else involved with this whole mess, are only invloved because YOUR pal Ray had no intentions what so ever of sending parts to anyone. I've had 3 phone calls from Ray's lawyer offering me my money back......why did it take 9mo & legal action to get to this point? If he is such a stand up guy, then answer that for me bud..... The DA has admitted that this whole thing with Ray is much bigger than they originally thought. Ray's lawer is a snake, and probablly his cousin. If anyone accepts any of Ray's new found fortune, we are going against the work the DA has already done in hope of locking this A-hole up. The $1000 isn't the point, its having to take it this far to even get offered my $1000 back is the point.

Cody Adgent

 

Tad hemi why not get on a plane and figure this out yourself. CAK & CLE are the closest airports. Come on over. Otherwise you are just wasting board space.

c adgent if getting your money back is not the point then what is?

You guys need to go back and read my posts. You claim I am sticking up for Ray. Not once have I done that. Not once have I said anything other than my personal experience.

The whole reason I got on here was to question those involved who have insisted Ray is scamming to pay back people who have warrants out on him. I have simply asked if those people were paid back 6 months ago, how could he be scamming to pay people back who have already been paid back? Everyone srems to want to ask me 20 questions which I have answered but no one seems to want to answer the 3-4 questions I have asked.

JB

 

Physical Address to Meet You and Have a Cordial Meetying With you

Hello Jack,
It was so pleasant that you returned my most recent message to you on this most public forum but, again, you have not even come close to PM'ing me your physical address. I am sincere in my request for you to come clean on the proving up of your identification. It looks to me that someone here is trying to play mind games and be believe me, you (Jack) Ray) is NOT superior in mind games. You (Jack) (Ray) is only making ,more evidence with the IP address idea and the prosecutors file. GO ahead, have some fun, but, in the end, Ray is going to get his.
Stay In Touch, Ray.
Barry

 

Why on earth would I have any interest giving a perfect stranger my home address to discuss a matter that stranger has no interest in in the first place? You can look at all the IP addresses you want. I have nothing to hide. But I will not post my drivers license, phone number or address ona public forum where it is obvious my opinions and observations piss people off.

I have answered all that has been asked of me to prove who I am.

But at this point it makes no difference. It's not about facts. Its about being right regardless of how ridiculous you sound.

Until I get answers to my questions I don't really have anything else to say. The lack of answers to those questions by the people involved have said a lot.

JB

 

My point is...........

The whole damn point is, we had to get the police involved & wait 9 months to get offered our money back. Do you think that is fair Jack? Ole Ray didn't waist any time cashing my check. I personally gave him ample opportunity to just send me my money back numerous times.....but....NOOOOOO. That wasn't good enough. I have waisted plenty of my time getting to this point & I personally will do whatever I can to see that he gets to waste plenty of his time sitting in jail thinking about how he screwed people over. All your buddy Ray had to do is either send the parts he sold or sent a check back in a timely matter. Jack, please PM your phone number because I think the DA would love to discuss this matter with you since you seem to be a wealth of knowledge.

 

So quoting things those involved have already stated and knowing that people have been paid is considered a wealth of knowledge?

c adgent did you get your money back like the others?

JB

 

No idea. Why don't you call him and find out. That's what I did when I wanted answers.

JB

 

I myself am going to be GLAD to see ray get to spend some QUALITY time in our correction center here in KY !!!!

it REALLY stun's the shit out of me that this guy can just KEEP on finding suckers !!!! and it's USUALLY when someone posts a WTB add. that's what I did, and two others that I personally know of.

I'd REALLY like to commend Will Hanna for "outing" the fact that this " billington" fellow has the same IP address that ray has !!!!!! their are MORE aliases. WE need to get TOGETHER & find out HOW to make these thefts a federal case. THEN it would be DONE !!! gotta serve 85 % of your time in the fed system AND, he'd get a NICE chunk of time !!!!! can anyone help me with this ???

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thanks, Steve Keen

 

Yeah right...

Just got a private note on ITA from Jack....sorry I mean Ray.....saying it's a waste of my time to travel all the way from Canada to testify against him...especially since I was paid back...uh huh. OK so here's the deal....I am not traveling all that way...I will be testifying on a secure video link. Jack/Ray can't understand why I still want to testify...afterall he did pay me back. Well, like Cory said....not until the law got involved did I get paid, and from what I know, the money paid to me was from other continued scams - which I did NOT know at the time. So yeah I'm going to carry on. As far as what Corey said...anybody accepting a payback undermines the prosecution - not in my case anyway since it was made explicitly clear to RV's lawyer that even if I got paid back, it had nothing to do with dropping the charges. I got a call a couple of days ago from the prosecutor asking if I wanted to carry on, to which I said yes. I have nothing to gain financially by carrying on, but I just f**k'n hate a thief. I'm no crusader but thieves live right at the bottom of the tank.

 

AMEN !!!!! Can I get an AMEN !!!!!!