Vegas by the numbers....

Discussion in 'Pit Buzz' started by Will Hanna, Apr 10, 2006.

  1. Will Hanna

    Will Hanna We put the 'inside' in Top Alcohol
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    Here's my best comparison of TAD numbers -

    Sean O'Bannon low et-5.38
    A/Fuel Low ET- Duane Shields 5.50
    Pro Stock Low ET- Greg Anderson 6.78

    HOUSTON NAT-
    A/Fuel Low ET - Art Gallant 5.242
    Duane Shields Low ET - 5.37
    Ashley Force Low ET - 5.29
    Pro Stock - 6.68 - Line

    LAS VEGAS LAST CHANCE TESTING (Pre Pomona)
    A/Fuel Low ET - Aaron Olivarez - 5.34
    Pro Stock Low ET - Anderson - 6.74

    What do the numbers say? Olivarez, Torrence, Reichert or Gallant should have been able to run at very least a low .40 to high .30 in the conditions. Darien's bad air combo is coming around, but it's not quite there....Ashley ran one 5.29 in the cool conditions of round one...then back to the mid .30's. Duane Shields' best was a .37 when other A/F's were in the mid .20's. Duane has a good team, and I think soon we'll be mentioning his name with the very top of the class...but he's still a tick off the leaders.
     
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    Will Hanna, Apr 10, 2006
  2. alky racer

    alky racer New Member

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    Will did you notice that the air at Vegas national was almost 1700' worse than at the last chance test. Do you still think the top a fuel cars can run high thirties in that type of air?
     
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  3. Will Hanna

    Will Hanna We put the 'inside' in Top Alcohol
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    air

    honestly i couldn't find the air numbers on the net for the last chance test. thats why i compared pro stock numbers since they are pretty much rolling weather stations...
     
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    Will Hanna, Apr 11, 2006
  4. nitrohawk

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    Numbers games

    So what kind of conclusion can you draw fron the numbers you presented who woda, shoda, cuda. Seems to me its the same game that could have been played with one bad only at Houston!!! If O bannon would have been there he shuda, woda, or cuda!
    The air at the testing session was better than at Houston. Over a thousand feet makes a big difference to an a-fuel car. Someone out there please tell me how to tune an injected fuel motor to run the same numbers when the air is 4300 ft as at 1700? Please? All replies will be taken seriously. A 5.38 at this altitude would be a teen in good air.
    Now the a-fuel cars that run in the 20's at Houston who were at Vegas are not really any of the top cars in the class. Whoo, I'm missing something here.
    Like I said in another post guess the a-fuel tuners went brain dead from one week to the next. Don't think it could be the altitude, do you? What needs to happen if you are ever going to have parity is factor the elevation for the fuel cars. Not the physacal elevation but the adjusted elevation. If not then the class will end up with a-fuel races and bad races. Both classes will pick and choose the conditions where they have the best chance.
     
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  5. Will Hanna

    Will Hanna We put the 'inside' in Top Alcohol
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    good for the goose, good for the gander

    all you hear when you say something about the 5.24's in houston was what if obannon what if santos, blah blah blah. why cant they run what they did 3 years ago...

    so i just figured if that works for the a/f guys.....what if conway, gallant or reichert were there?

    not to hurt any feelings but darien's car hasn't run that well when the air goes away since they backed off the nitro.

    as far as having b/ad events and a/fd events...out of like 42 divisional events and 16 nationals, maybe 6 or 8 of the total of 58 events are 'blown' races where the altitude really hurts the a/fd's. if niver's .35 in tucson back at 100% shows anything, that number may well be 3 or 4. vegas in the spring is the only 'blown' national.

    history is doomed to repeat itself until you learn from it. do we see a script unfolding much like 2005?

    blown cars run great in pomona, a/fd's run great at gville and the early divisionals, run great in houston, then a blown car dominates vegas....then everyone says we need to wait and see....

    nitrodaumus sez a/fuelers dominate through the summer....the october buzz will be the 4 way title fight between torrence, reichert and olivarez coming down the stretch. obannon might have an outside chance.
     
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    Will Hanna, Apr 12, 2006
  6. alky racer

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    Will I think we are all doing drugs to think NHRA is going to do anything this early in the year. I think there anwser today is that the best of the blown cars and best of the afuel cars have not met up and gone head to head yet, so there is no compairison to be made. I dont like it but I believe that we are all going to have to wait till Federlin,Demke,O'Bannon,Severance all head east. I know for fact that Demke,Federlin, and O'Bannon all plan on makeing an apperance at Chicago and maybe even Topeka. I do agree with you that all the what if is getting old but I for one still think the blown cars are in the race and expect to see some twenties in good air. I expect the best in the west to make there presence known as the year goes on. I guess only time will tell.
     
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  7. The Zone

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    Hey Gys what did Niver run at Tucson three weeks ago. I think it was a 5.37 in 5000 feet of air
    Plus three 5.40's
    Dean
     
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  8. alky racer

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    Dean I dont know if your not up to speed or what the deal is but you reported on your site that Niver ran 5.35 at Tucson on 97%. Tucson, Fallon, and Acton are all tracks where 100% is given to the afuel cars. So that being said Marks runs at Tucson do not apply to Vegas. Just thought I would fill you in.
     
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