Two part 8973 question...

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  1. Scouder

    Scouder New Member

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    First question. If you kill the 12v to the 8973 box, does it kill the engine?

    Second question. If it kills the engine, why do we use monster buttons, relays, air-kills, etc... to shut off the mag?

    -Brian
     
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  2. Mike Canter

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    Yes to Part One. if you kill the 8973 12 volts the motor is dead. As far as Part Two there are a lot ofs cars that use chopping 12 volts to the 8973 as the way to kill the motor.
     
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  3. Scouder

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    Mike,

    Maybe it's just me, but this doesn't sound like unreserved support for that method. I know you use a relay and a switch cover. Do you have reservations about killing it with the 8973?

    -Brian
     
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    I put the switch and relay in when we first got the ProMag and 8973 because at that time I didn't know any better. That was a few years ago. If the relay ever failed then I would throw it over my shoulder and never look back.
     
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    Thanks Mike,

    Your input on the 8973 has made it really simple to use. We just finished our first year and it worked perfectly. Thanks for the help.

    -Brian
     
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  6. aj481x

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    We leave the red button in the car simply because it may be easier to hit in an emergency, with big gloves on, but also when you need to start the motor on the mag pickup for engine timing setup I am not sure if the 12v switch would shut it off.
     
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  7. Mike Canter

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    Good point on the crank trigger bypass during start but the 8973 still stays in the circuit controlling the mag even when the switch is in bypass so shutting down the 8973 will still shut off the motor. The way around the gloves and small switch is to use the aircraft type switch with the red cover on it. The cover has to be up or open for the switch to be on the closing the cover shuts off the switch and it is easy to hit that cover and close it with gloves on. I agree it would be a safety issue if you couldn't shut the switch off with gloves on.
     
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  8. Scouder

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    You guys did bring up a point that occurred to me as well. From time to time I have started the engine with the MSD disconnected, mag only, for diagnostics purposes. In that event I would have to fabricate a shutoff and install it between the terminals on the coil before startup.

    As for hitting the switch. I fabricated a switch panel that spans the entire center of my butterfly steering wheel. As a test, I put one of Mike's aircraft style guards on my Master 12v switch in the wheel. With my -20 gloves on, I manipulated all the controls, released and re-acquired the wheel with each hand, and whipped the wheel lock to lock as fast as I could. No interference with the guard. Then to test shutting off the car with gloves on I closed my eyes and swiped my hand between the handles of the wheel. Can't miss.

    As an added benefit, the push-pull master cutoff on the back of the car now interrupts the entire 12v system instead of just grounding the mag. (Yes, I was skirting the rule just a little).

    I like this arrangement much better.

    -Brian
     
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  9. hines

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    killing 8973

    I'm in the process of wiring my car right now and I did both. You have to run 12v to the relay to make it work and you send 12v to the 8973. I wired both of these things back to the overhead panel so that I have a safety in case one of the two fails. No time on the big end for worries. Take safety over this small weight save anytime!!
     
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  10. aj481x

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    As for hitting the switch. I fabricated a switch panel that spans the entire center of my butterfly steering wheel. As a test, I put one of Mike's aircraft style guards on my Master 12v switch in the wheel. With my -20 gloves on, I manipulated all the controls, released and re-acquired the wheel with each hand, and whipped the wheel lock to lock as fast as I could. No interference with the guard. Then to test shutting off the car with gloves on I closed my eyes and swiped my hand between the handles of the wheel. Can't miss.

    Did you go Zoom Zoom while you were doing this? :)



    -Brian[/QUOTE]
     
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  11. Scouder

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    You know damn well I did! Not only did I go vroom, vroom, but I actually put on my jacket, buckled myself in, and went through an entire startup/burnout/run/shutdown pulling all the handles and pushing all the buttons! If I was thinking ahead I would have practiced a top-end interview when I got out!

    -Brian
     
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