TAFC Weight Distribution Help

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  1. Tony Garanzuay

    Tony Garanzuay Jr. Dragster

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    Trying to sort out the best weight distribution on a race ready, (with driver at starting line), TAFC with total weight of 2337 lbs. ; 1007 on front and 1330 on rear; with LF = 464 lbs, ; RF = 544 lbs; LR = 689 lbs.; RR = 642 lbs. This gives me about 43% front to a 57% rear weight set up. Left front shows to be 19.85% to the RF of 23.27%. Left Rear shows to have 29.48% to the Right Rear's 27.47%. My question is do we need more/less Right Front weight and or more/less Left Rear weight as the car has shown a tendency to go to the Right upon launch. Any help or comments appreciated.
     
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  2. bruce mullins

    bruce mullins Top Dragster

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    looks to me that your weight offset is to the wrong sides. i was always told neutral to 50 pounds more on the left front and right rear. does the car try to slide the back over to one side during the burnout? thats another way to tell if the weight is off. does the car have strange adjustable spindles on the front or are the a-frames adjustable so you can lower the left front wheel or raise the right front. another old trick is to pump one of the front tires up harder than the other if there is no adjustment. by pumping a tire up harder you increase its diameter which actually begins to blace the wheel first like you lowered the wheel. the down side to this is if you make it to big it will cause the car to pull down track...
     
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  3. shawn davis

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    Weight, Pinion?

    I'm Working On A Blown Alterd W A Similar Weight Distribution. This Things Carrying The Tires Something Terrible. What About Pinion Angle In A Car Like This? Solid Frt And Rear Suspension. Motor Is 64 From Mid Plate To Rear Axle. Crank Center Is As Low As It Can Get. It Has A Converter, Powerglide Which May Be Affecting It Also
     
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  4. Rapid Randy AA/FA

    Rapid Randy AA/FA Comp Eliminator

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    SHAWN,

    Are you saying the car wheelies too much {high}? How long is your wheelie bar? How much tire pressure are you running. How much weight do you have on the nose?

    Rapid
     
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  5. Bob Kraemer

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    With the car up on stands and the rear tires and front tires inflated to running PSI check the circumference of the rear tires and front tires.
    If they are different you may need to add some air pressure to the tires that are different.
    If the car is hooking to the right try adding a little pressure to the right rear tire or the right front tire. I would start with the right rear tire first.
    Also if your are running a single wheel wheelie bar make sure it is centered on the car. If it is shifted to the left or right it will cause handiling problems at launch.
     
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  6. Will Hanna

    Will Hanna We put the 'inside' in Top Alcohol
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    steering

    with it being a new car have you checked it real hard while towing to make sure that straight on the wheel makes the car go straight? i never drove our car while towing, but the car was always hooking to the right after the launch. i didn't know the steering wheel had gotten offset, so sub conciously i would straighten the wheel right before i staged. well, when the wheels touched down, straight was actually a little off to the left, so with the wheel straight, it would hook right....

    check the rollout like bob mentioned....

    another check is to make sure the wheelie bar is dead centered too. probably already did that since it's a new wheelie bar...

    make sure steve drinks his v8 before the run too...:D
     
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  7. shawn davis

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    Wheelie

    It Has A 80 Inch Bar, Right At 1100 On The Frt End. He Keeps Adding-removing Some Lead. Tried From 5.5 To 6.25 Tire Pressure, A 34.5 Goodyear 1022.but The Driver Sits Pretty Upright,big Guy Also. And Has A Wing Off The Rollbar, I'm Thinking That May Put The Center Of Gravity High
    It Picks The Wheels Right Up At The Hit, And The Front End Is Light, Bouncing To Around 300 Feet. Not Making Ton Of Power, Should Run 6.50's Id Think.
     
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  8. Mike Canter

    Mike Canter Top Dragster
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    I am confused here as to how many different cars are we talking about two different cars or one?? Must be getting old. Shawn are you talking about Steve's/Tony's car or a different one?
     
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  9. shawn davis

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    Yep Mike Two Different Cars W Two Different Problems
     
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  10. Rapid Randy AA/FA

    Rapid Randy AA/FA Comp Eliminator

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    I was going to suggest it in my 1st post but didn't. Shawn why don't you start a new thread and we can discuss. I am sure there are guys here who will help you. That will keep both treads on topic.

    Rapid
     
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  11. Mike Canter

    Mike Canter Top Dragster
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    So wha is the normal weight distributation between the front and rear wheels on a Funny Car. I know that on a ProMod we try for 51% on the rear wheels.

    Other than adjustable front spindles and adding ballast is there any other way to adjust four corner weight distribution on a FC?

    It would seem to me that weight distributation is kind of part of the initial design of the chassis. Is Tony's 57% on the rear normal? To me that is always going to make the front lift. If that is abnormal then adding weight to the front is just going to slow the car down but at least he can launch. Maybe the real solution is to move the the enegine forward some but that is no easy task. Maybe move Steve's seat forward of the motor like that old funny car design that John Force had at one time (lol)
     
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  12. eli

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    When we were building chassis, ( F/C ) we would build in a pre load of 3/8 of an inch on the right front weel,( it would be lower that the other 3 weels by 3/8 " ) of corse that was then and this is now, with the chassis the way they are now, flex fliers, i would have to say that you will have to check your preload every now and then, because the chassis today twist and will take a set after a few races, (The left front weel will twist up from the tork of the motor) so you have to monator that at all times, If you watch my brothers car it makes you want to go hummmmmmmmmmmm. Just my 2 cents.
     
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  13. Mike Canter

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    When you are building a chassis for an F/C one must have a idea of the front to back weight bias that you want to end up with and if so then what is the ideal bias for a F/C with your wheelbase. It sems to me that positioning the motor in the frame would be th most important controller of this factor but one is limited some to where the hole is in the body for the blower hat and relationship of he clutch pedal to the drivers foot. The driveshaft length can be changed.

    In Steve's case the Strange top loader differential has probably added more weight to the rear so maybe the motor needs to be scooted foward a few inches rather than adding ballast which increases the total weight of the car and will slow you down.
     
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