Is this Top alky or Top nitro class

in my opinion, all this bs w/nhra and rule changes to slow down af/d to even up the class is to say top alky dragsters are too slow to compete against A/fuel. I have seen a/fuel cars be the losers on too hot of tracks and condition. i have seen blown cars be the losers on good conditions and good air which tells me a/fuel cars are the quicker..dont get me wrong either side of the fuel mixtures i love.
It just seems to me the class is called
TOP ALCOHOL, NOT TOP FUEL. so in my opinion i think we, they,us, and them should just go back to running alky and not nitro in a TOP ALCOHOL CLASS. maybe nhra can make a new class for non blown, nitro injected dragsters along with non blown, injected funny cars..that would be sweet !!!! this is a alcohol class not a nitro class. hello Mcfly......

 

Good job that is exactly what I told NHRA last week. Dave

 

David did you say they should split the class or did you say that since it is called Top Alcohol then that is all that should run.

The class was named I assume because the majority were BAD, but the A/Fuelers have run in the class since ints inception.
Playing devil advocate here.

I still think both can survive together (and thrive actually), just not the way NHRA has decided it thats all.

Dean

[ February 01, 2005, 08:24 PM: Message edited by: The Zone ]

 

Dean I told them they should split the two cars as there is no way they will ever make everyone happy. That way it will be blown against blown and nitro against nitro. Thanks Dave

 

I would say that all of the T/AD guys and gals need to boycott the Races but I know what NHRA would do they would just drop the class all together and that would hurt you guys a heck of a lot more. I am a big fan of Marty’s but I also have a couple Nitro Guys that I really like to watch race. What NHRA is doing to the class really sucks and from a fans point of view they really need to get there act together and get it fixed fast before they lose more cars and FANS that PAY TO WATCH

 

first off i would have to say that the sportsman class`s are the back bone of the nhra.
nhra would never drop the top alcohol class..period !!! there is definatly a difference on the performance between the two fuels. the fact still remains and is quite CLEAR that this IS Top Alcohol not top fuel. and again i will say, i am not taking sides with anyone, except those who like to race and have a love for the sport.
look what they did to pro stock truck, moved that class to comp, also in comp are pro mod cars, and they have certain races where they run pro mod in there on sanction form.
there are those out there who are whining about what they did to af/d adjustments i would too , but..evntually af/d will be back in the game running much better numbers compared to ta/d.
af/d are just a blower shy of being a top fuel dragster, they will always find a way to pick back up what was lost, so as of right now with 10 to 20 test runs they are off what..1.5 tenths off a average af/d from last year, that is those who had the big bucks..low doe cars ran high 30`s to low 40`s.... stop whining...
i say af/d needs to be put into its own class, whether its moved to comp or a class called top injected...bring all the blowers back !!!
THIS IS TOP ALCOHOL......

 

The classes now known as TAD and TAFC are direct descendants of what was called back in the early 70’s Pro Comp, and guess what – there were no blown alcohol cars then. On the other hand, there were plenty of injected nitro dragsters and funny cars. Just because the class is currently named TAD doesn’t really mean anything. A few years ago it was called Federal Mogul Dragster wasn’t it? That said however, Mr. Wells and company have a point. TAD has become a second Comp, whose index is not written down anywhere, but is currently somewhere between 5.25 and 5.30. You and your class had better get ready to take a hit if you run quicker than that. It seems unlikely the class will do anything but continue to shrink in the current climate. Splitting it up may be the only long range solution.

 

Now that's an idea I would have never thought of! Run 'em on a 5.90 index!

Bob

[ February 02, 2005, 01:11 AM: Message edited by: Bob Orme ]

 

I know this is for the Alcohol classes, but two very interesting post at Competition Plus.com www.competitionplus.com/

On the news page is the following:
Top Sportsman at an NHRA National Event this season?
(2-2-2005) - One of our manufacturer sources has told us that Top Sportsman will run an exhibition at this season's NHRA Southern Nationals in Commerce, Ga. We are also hearing that Dart Machinery will be the sponsor of the special 16-car exhibition field. The Top 10 of Division 2, 3 and 4 are the only ones eligible to attend.
The old timers might recall in 1980 that a new class onto the scene called Pro Gas which featured a 9.80 index on a pro-tree. It was run as a 16-car exhibition at Pomona that year. By 1982, it was renamed Super Gas and the index was changed to 9.90. It later replaced Modified eliminator.
That leads us to ask, who's the victim going to be this time? Will it be Super Stock or Stock? How ironic it is that Competition elimination is scheduled to sit out that event

And under the dirt and rumors section is the following:

Here's something we've heard lately. After leaving the IHRA for a supposedly bigger and better deal in the NHRA, it appears the Nitro Harley riders will not be a part of the NHRA show in 2005. (2-1-2004)

Look’s like the same old sh** from Glendora, just a different class

 

Mr Adams
I think you aimed your post at the wrong person I never said they should eliminate the AF/D all I said is they should separate them I have a lot of friends on that side of the class as well as on the blown side, and I don't like what NHRA is doing to them any more than what they arn't allowing the blown cars to do either.
I believe that there where also alcohol dragsters and funny cars in the days of pro comp. but I could be wrong. Before the class was called Federal Mogal Dragster, it was called Top Alcohol Dragster. With about 8-10 different combinations to deal with. Dave

 

In the new National Dragster there is a "Engine moratorium reminder" from NHRA..
It says that the old moratorium on blocks and heads will be expanded to cover all engine components (manifolds, etc.).
So in case any of you blown alcohol guys had any good ideas to improve your motors, forget it.
It's become obvious the goal is to make all the cars slower, not to achieve parity for the blown cars.
I think the et's are just too close to the 4 second range and that's reserved for the pros.
By the way, what constitutes an original manifold on an AFD. Do we now have to switch to a BAE blower manifold to be legal?

 

David, (IF) NHRA ever split the classes, you think NHRA would only give each combo an 8 car field? Would they get all 16 events as well?

 

Mike W. I would gess it depends on which way the wind is blowing that day.

 

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Would the purse get split as well?