Cost per run - Parts Attrition ?

If any of you have the direct knowledge of your cost per run I'd like to compare the Information to our operation which we would calculate in Canadian Francs . What I am looking for is maybe easier in a formula like total dollars from starting the car the first time of the year to the last run divide by the total runs made . My thought is if we generate enough fact based information from reliable sources we would get a good idea what we need to charge for match races, to sanctioning bodies and marketing partners . We all know we need 'MO MONEY' but how much is enough ?? Please no " if this was " or " if we did this " just what ever you can justify as a real cost to making each lap . This could be very interesting if done correctly !

 

Damn Les, I thought you guys had enough money with that big money operation you guys have! HaHa! Just Kidding

Merry Christmas

 

Roughly $800 dollars per lap for your average a-fuel car.

Will, $1500? Are you sure about that?

 

Will,
Please explain what you mean by "it came out to 350 or less than 100"?
Did your figures come out to 350 less for afuel car, or less than 100.
It should be obvious to anyone that the cost is greater than you could possibly win. The only way to make ends meet is with sponsor.
Did your cost per run include crew pay?

 

CREW PAY?!!!!
You mean we're suppose to get paid!!!! LOL

 

$350 per race
< $100 per run

 

Just like to have one crew guy, to help dad Larry and I,LOL.

 

Mind you we are a way low buck team. We run fat and happy. In the last two years of running we have only killed one piston. The bigest thing we found to keep cost down is replacing the the wear parts before the leave the motor without taking off the pan. 16 runs to rods, checking brg. every run, valve springs when they loose %15, lube the pushrods every run, check the pistons around the wrist pin after each week out and after if we shake the tires. But at track cost is only part of the story. I luckly or maybe not, have a CPA for a wife, she has worked it out to about $678.32 in parts a run over a year with all the mainantce. Now if you figure all the cost running a team it is 2X's to 3X's that. Not counting our new toter we spent $1395.02 a run

Thanks
Bob

 

Will, if we get are sponsor package finshed soon, we will be upgrading. When we were out at PRI we talk with both Brooks and GRP. We have run the B2's with a fuel pin (Heavy). With a sponsor we will have to lean on it more. They want us to be compitive in IHRA (Small blower 526-540CID less rpms)I would like to get 24-32 runs, so we would replace then after 2 wins in a row LOL
Thanks
Bob

 

we rev our motor to 9500 and pitch the rods at 8runs(veney BNR roots motor))we have used them all after 10 in our deal the fuse is lit!!buy the cheapest hard rod and pitch em often. words of wisdom from a true low buck racer thats been around the block with rod propaganda!!

 

When I was Indy, I talked to a few FC teams that ran the GRP rods. Most were pushing 18-20 runs depending on RPM.

 

When I asked many of the fast guys if they could get 20 runs out of the grp rods they told me they didn't want to find out. One even told me "thats like playing with fire, sooner or later your gonna get burnt". So my question is why do some people say they can get 20 runs, and a lot of the guys that run their stuff hard say they can only get 15 max?

 

I have ran GRP rods for 4 year now. WE have ran then up to 25 runs. Never kick a rod out with grp. AT e-town we made 3 run on the rev limiter and then went columbus and made five more runs on then.

 

Seriously, KJ, how fast (not e.t.) did you run, and what was your rev limit set on?? Never threw rods out before, but I think it happens mostly at the top end of track when clutch should be locked, I think???? thanks for info,,warren d

 

I got my facts from Bill Reichert
Think about it, 14 quarts of oil, 16 spark plugs, new clutch pack, roughly 8 gallons of nitro, probably a couple of rod bearings, the cost of tires divided by the number of runs you get on them. Plus normal where and tear. It adds up quick.

[ December 19, 2003, 10:19 AM: Message edited by: ch3no2 ]

 

We run our GRP rods as many as 25 runs. Of course if we abuse them we might take them out sooner. The earliest we pulled a set of rods this year was 18 runs, after freewheeling the engine. Knock on wood, we had zero lower engine problems this year. I buy mine like everyone else, so this is just deserved appreciation.

BTW Will, Didn't you doubt me on this same point earlier this year. LOL

Merry Christmas,

 

What is the price for a set of GRP's.

Thanks