cost of nitro; price war on the horizon

Just a heads up. Those who use nitro have heard about the price increase. There will be another source that will shake things up in the market. I sent a direct message to Will to see if he is cool with me posting details on facts that are known, and who to contact to purchase fuel.

I'm just doing my part to get the word out on those who are laying it on the line to help racers and do the right thing.

I'll post details later.

 

I read where some of the fuel guys were testing a new product. What is the deal? I need to purchase some before long.

 

I had heard that a few PRO teams were getting a bunch of Chinese Nitro. Not sure of any details, that's just what I heard.

 

As soon as I have contact details, and Will says it is OK to post them, you will know.

I will say I am in contact with one of the partners in this venture to supply nitro in the 650$ a drum price.

 

I'll just get a hold of Jim and have him provide contact details.

Bottom line, the two companies producing/importing nitro and one of the companies that was branding for distribution all got together and worked out a deal of sorts to be the only supplier to the teams that use the fuel.. During the process of forming this deal, Sunoco was left out, and the guy who was selling the Sunoco brand knows the details and underlying dirt on what may be viewed as price fixing.

Jim Mac Monagle is/was the guy providing the Sunoco brand of nitro. Needless to say, he along with a number of serious players in the nitro game are really pissed. As a result, Jim, and Don Schumacher have gone direct to the source of production over in China, took a risk, and put their butts on the line to import nitro to distribute. They are going to sell it for the same price it had been selling for, around 650 a drum. Since the other group thought they are going to be single source and sell it for 900 a drum, you can imagine the crap that is going to hit the fan.

So, for all the racers running nitro, you should do yourselves a favor and support ProNitro brand of fuel.

And the rumors are true that several teams during the Vegas test event were using this imported nitro, and had very good results. The nitro was even tested and compared to the other brand, and was found to be equal if not better in quality and purity.

 

So, when your at the races and you go to the VP trailer what are you buying?

 

so how do you get in contact with jim? Phone Number Thanks

 

Straight from the mouth of Linda MacMonagle, Jim is stabilized and the doctors think everything is under control. He may be moved from the ICU to a room later today or tomorrow. He has talked a little but is very weak. He and Linda want to deeply thank everyone for their prayers and concern. There's a life style change in his future but like Arnold, he'll be back.

Now for the Pro Nitro News: Bummer (Jim's son) did a great job of picking up the ball and got himself and the nitro to Phoenix. The first car with their fuel is about to run and all is fine on that end. Anyone who was promised fuel at Phoenix will get it and there's plenty more where that came from. Tucson testing next week is also covered. It doesn't get any simpler than that.

 

The previous post is in response to Jim going into the hospital in the last 48 hours.

I've asked for some contact information for now. I hope to get a phone number soon. In the meantime, you can also contact Don Schumacher as he is also involved in the Pro Nitro deal.

 

Looks like the NHRA put the kibosh on that. Only nitromethane from 'NHRA accepted suppliers' can be used at NHRA national and divisional events. There are only two NHRA accepted supplers, DOW/Angus and Wego. I wonder how hard these companies lobbied the NHRA or how much money they donated to the NHRA or added to sponsorships???

The NHRA says their "...decision to designate accepted suppliers is based on factors including NHRA's judgment that security, safety, long term availability of both a domestically produced and imported supply of nitromethane, and the best interests of the sport of drag racing are best served thereby." How's that for corporate doublespeak?

Amendment to 2004 NHRA Rulebook - February 13, 2004

Not only that, but at some time in the future, nitro will only be sold to people "...who have completed the safety and security training and who show valid photo identification." Do the BAD crew members get carded when they buy alcohol? lol...

[ February 15, 2004, 01:18 AM: Message edited by: Rocky ]

 

This will never pass the smell test!!!
It is colusion and price fixing.
NHRA can set SPEC. for products but they can't mandate out the competetion.
They are attempting to get buy with this by useing the weak safety issue. Hell we all know that both gasoline and alcohol are way more dangerous to store and handle than nitro. How would you like to carry 40-50 gallons of gas around in the trailer???
This late hour amendment to the rules which is not even posted on their website is a lame attempt to protect the financial arrangment with VP and Wego.
Stay tuned because you have not heard the end of this. I have been told that NHRA knows they are on the legal loosing end of this dog fight and the dogs are not going away.

 

Not only that, but at some time in the future, nitro will only be sold to people "...who have completed the safety and security training and who show valid photo identification." Do the BAD crew members get carded when they buy alcohol? lol...


Good one Rock.

When will someone do a new cost comparison for A-fuel vs. Alcohol?

Maybe parity is getting better, a rule change and a pocket book hit.

Liquid gold that is...

 

Keep wishing. The price of nitro isn't going to slow the a-fuel guys down.

 

LMAO!

Kevin

 

Well, given the legal issues the NHRA has with PST debacle, I can't believe they would take on another losing proposition.

However, I agree, Nighthawk, that this new rule stinks to high heaven of collusion and price fixing. If the new supplier were to also offer safety training, I don't see how the NHRA could avoid making them an 'accepted' supplier.

What the heck has come over the NHRA???

 

What's to fight ??? they have a spec Fuel now . Done deal, You can't fight that .... Pro Stock IHRA, NHRA, Nascar it's happening everywhere and the politics of it really can't be changed. You wait till they start pouring it for you, or Chemically tracking it with a specific element as ID. The NHRA are BLOODSUCKERS .... every body open your wallet and stick your arm out , they are really nice people though they have great camping facilities for you to watch the pro's run , until they can fit you in . Spring will be here soon and you will all forget the torment you put yourself through because you are going racing anyway !! They have your SOULS !

 

NHRA might have me by my b-lls but never my soul.
There is a line in the sand that not everyone will cross. See what they do when Schumaker runs the chinese fuel at Pomona. And he may have some other teams using it as well. They going to ban his 3 cars from competetion????

 

Interesting scenario... Will Schumacher, in fact, run nitro that is not from an 'accepted' supplier? If so, will the NHRA ban Schumacher's entries.

Sounds like a game of chicken. Maybe we'll be treated to the opportunity to see who blinks first. Who's taking bets? What are the odds?

 

I believe Schumacher will not challenge them in the competition arena . It just isn't a winning Challenge, there is no way he will cast any un natural pressure to the teams or his Sponsors they come to win races and fans not to fight for good or evil . Politics will take a back seat to their drive for a Championship.

You are just gonna have to show them your right and they are wrong ! scrap the Fuel deal and stick a blower on it ........ that'll show em what for !! You tell them you and your friends are not gonna take it anymore . NHRA will listen , won't they ?