Cooling Fuel In Staging Lanes

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  1. ArtWorkPhx

    ArtWorkPhx New Member

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    When NHRA made the TAD rule change adding the 50 degree minimum fuel temperature they also removed the language confining fuel cooling/heating to the pit area only. I assume that was in consideration for us trying to predict how long we might be sitting in the staging lanes and whether we need our fuel in the car to be 20, 30 or 40 degrees when we roll out of the pits. How many of you are planning on dragging your fuel cooling equipment into the staging lanes so you can be assured of having the correct temperature after sitting out there for 10 minutes to 2 hours in 60 to 90 degree air temeratures? I see no other way, but can you just see it now, what a cluster f@$& it will be.

    Art
     
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  2. clint thompson

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    get over it

    I guess you could just get over it and quit trying to outsmart the spirit of the rule, which is obviously to stop artificially cooling the fuel, why do you suppose they chose 50 degrees? Not to give you a number to "shoot for" but rather to accomodate what would likely be the coolest temps we would be racing in.

    Fuel cooling equipment in the staging lanes...... What a joke!:rolleyes:
     
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  3. blown375

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    The rule should be... fuel has to be within 10* of ambient temperature!
    Then nobody has to worry about how long it sits in the lanes!
     
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  4. Randy G.

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    There you have it.
     
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  5. Will Hanna

    Will Hanna We put the 'inside' in Top Alcohol
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    diminishing returns...

    I'd be willing to bet the difference in 50 degree nitro and 60 degree nitro is quite small. Considering teams were getting nitro down in the teens to 20's in the lanes last year. That said, a long sit in the lanes could take 50 degree fuel to ambient.
     
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  6. steve lesueur

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    where is the 50 degrees measured?

    Whole thing lies in where the measurement is taken. if at fuel check, then there really isn't a huge change in what is being done. If they could spot check in the staging lanes, big difference.
     
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  7. Dave Germain

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    fuel checks

    I have had fuel checks done on my car in the staging lanes at lots of events here in the pacific northwest. Maybe other divs dont do that but they certainly do here. Dave Germain
     
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  8. nitrohawk

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    You better be ready to have the fuel checked in the staging lanes. If it is lower than 50 degrees you will be disqulified. The rule has plenty of holes in it so that you can maintain your fuel at 50 degrees until just before you run. There is no rule that says you have to fill your tank in the pits!!!!
     
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  9. jeffj

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    The way I read the general regs (20.5) still says "Fuel/Air" "Any method of artificially cooling or heating fuel prohibited (ie cool cans, freon, wet rags, etc) except as noted in class requirements. It goes on about stock SS and super class exceptions. It then says "Ambient temperature air only"
    9:12 Tow Vehicle: says "Car to be race ready when it leaves the pit area"
    It also says "support equipment prohibited outside the pit" and goes on to note an exception for T/A and fuel classes allowing startup equipment.
    Seems to indicate no fuel cooling, no fueling outside the pit area and as noted no fuel under 50 degrees anywhere from the pit area back to the pit area.
    I'm just reading what is written by "them"
    Jeffj
     
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