Comp Plus rumor??

Discussion in 'Pit Buzz' started by tjenna, Sep 4, 2004.

  1. tjenna

    tjenna Top Alcohol

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  2. was R4K

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    Having raced in the Pro-Comp days and also seeing the popularity of the f/c's vs. tad's race in Mission, B.C - I could live with it- Great for the spectators- you could even throw pro mod into the mix with a 32 car field-
    POPULARITY = MORE SPONSOR MONEY!!! :D
     
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  3. Dale_F

    Dale_F Super Comp

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    Geez, I didnt think that nhra could get their heads up their behinds any further. Guess they really dont want these cars around anymore.
     
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  4. tjenna

    tjenna Top Alcohol

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    That is sort of what I was thinking.
     
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  5. M Tigges

    M Tigges TAFC

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    who thought 92% would be cheaper than 125%
    and competitive with a roots? whats his name?nothing like suggesting to managment we go backwards!! (pro comp) get real. you or i would get fired for such a thing. LOL.....WOW
     
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  6. Len Imbrogno

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    The Pro Comp concept has been an idea of Bobbie Bennett's (the editor of the Comp Plus website) not mine or the NHRA. No, it is not being considered.
    The issue of parity in TAD is a problem that must be worked out with input from the racers on both sides of the class. As an example, TARA can play an important part in getting racers together on both sides of the issue and coming up with mutually agreed on suggestions on how to effect any changes to the class.
     
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  7. Lee Callaway

    Lee Callaway The Gov

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    Len The c blower alone will be no help
     
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  8. Tad117

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    Len what changes are you considering? Are you thinking of trying to slow down the a-fuelers again or are you thinking of trying to increase performance of the blown cars?
     
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  9. Hokes Racing

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    Nice to hear from the horses mouth. Thanks for the Reply. With two different fuels in one class it is hard to work it out were both kind is even. Looking at the Qualifing at INDY it shows that the Alky cars really need some help. I hope that NHRA does some thing befor its to late and all the ALKY guys are gone. IF it means costing the ALKY guys more to go faster I think that most would do it

    Lanny

    [ September 05, 2004, 02:06 PM: Message edited by: Hokes Racing ]
     
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  10. tjenna

    tjenna Top Alcohol

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    Thanks for the reply.
     
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  11. Dale_F

    Dale_F Super Comp

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    Wow an unexpected reply from Len Imbrogno. Thanks for taking the time to respond.
     
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  12. bruce mullins

    bruce mullins Top Dragster

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    i don't think this is the first time boobie bennett has put his foot in his own mouth.
     
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  13. Mr Scary

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    I sure wish NHRA was as aggessive about the Blown/A-Fuel rules as IHRA is with Pro mod!
     
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  14. LEN COTTRELL

    LEN COTTRELL Member

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    Len, thanks for reading this site and at least listening to the subscribers even thought it is critical at times.
    After 44 years with the sport I have seen a lot go around and come around and the injected nitro "success" did not just happen. The technology has finally been made available to allow the injected nitro combo to become very competitive with big fuel pumps, 44 AMP mags and beefier blocks and cylinder heads.
    Just returning from Indy, I made note that if Mike Gunderson had run .04 quicker, the top 8 cars in the field would have all been A Fuel and the bottom 8 would have all been Blown Alcohol.

    I believe everone recognizes there is a parity issue and I understand NHRA would like the two factions to present a mutually agreeable solution to NHRA. This is difficult for both parties to agree as they each have biases.

    My opinion is the the best solution is for NHRA to manage the nitro percentage as they are currently doing with Top Fuel. The advantages to this approach are;

    1) It will require neither party to invest
    in new equipment

    2) It can be implemented with very short notice (2 weeks for T/F)

    3) It can be easily readjusted if the initial limits are too much or not enough

    4) It will reduce potential for oildowns, ie; as opposed to adding bigger blowers for BAD which would probably increase the potential

    5) It will slow down the top end speeds at marginal Divisional tracks

    I realize there is no "perfect" solution, but I believe this is the best to satisify fans, track owners, NHRA and the 2 involved parties.

    Lets us get the parity issued resolved and Go Racing!
     
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  15. Bobby Bennett

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    Lenny, Lenny, Lenny...

    Why ya gonna throw me under the bus like that?

    Remember the Top Alcohol Dragster oildown at Indy when I walked by and saw ya shaking your head? I looked at you and your comment was "Your Pro Comp idea is looking better and better."

    Maybe that's how the foot got in my mouth Mullins...I didn't bring up the subject. It was offered.

    I'm still waiting to see the Top Alcohol cars running with a handicap on the tree.

    I still love ya Lenny, I just have to figure out how to get the bus tire tracks off my back...
     
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  16. Mr Scary

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    How would Pro comp stop Oildowns? Len Cottrell, I agree that adjusting the Nitro % limit for the A-Fuel cars would be much cheaper than adding another 100 lbs. But who would determine whats level performance? Even now most A-Fuel guys don't think they have an advantage since the Blown cars have won more Div. races. The only way you'll make everybody happy is to separate both Combo's into 8 car fields!
     
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  17. nitrohawk

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    Mr. Scary,
    I agree it would not reduce oil downs as 90 % of oildowns are caused by the blown cars now. I also would like the class split but don't think it will ever happen as that would require two payouts
    and the winners would be racing for 1/2 the paultry payout now, unless NHRA stepped up to the plate!!!!!
     
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  18. robert

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    where do you get 90% caused by blown cars
     
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  19. Lee Callaway

    Lee Callaway The Gov

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    IN the probably 300 or so runs ive made i put oil on the track 1 time.a very small quick clean up.
     
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