Bolts coming loose ???

Does any one have problems with timing cover and oil pan bolts coming loose on a billet block ? We ran ours this weekend and they all came loose every pass if so what do we do to keep them tight? I used red locktight on the timing cover and it didnt help

 

And i clifnote to this our timing was jumping everywhere we used two different lights on it and it was all over the place with or without the crank trigger plugged up gear drive issues maybe ??

 

Check the cam thrust and the crank balance.

 

U had the crank balanced and we put 0 lash in the cam ??

 

When I ran too lean and too much ignition timing, I too had loose timing cover and pan bolts. I would loc-tite and have lock washers in my timing cover, by the end of the run the bolts were gone and oil was gushing.
I was detonating cracks right into the cranks and block.

FYI
At that time I was only making 1430 HP and these are cast iron BBC's.

 

anyone pull the cap off the mag and check the rotor to make sure it's tight?

 

Sounds like it is to lean

 

this sounds likley to me also we had a #1 cyl spike to 1300 for no reason and burn the tip off this happened after two runs at 800-900 and one at 700 when we had the tip burn we richened the cylinder and the system and the spike went away we checked everything and found no reason for the spike the final run was 1000-1100 plugs look good after that run but bolt were loose on cover and pan ??? timing was at 27

 

mag?

MSD 44 or other?

 

yes it has a 44 pro mag

 

mag was fresh checked fuel pump flowed new wires

 

Bolts Loose

Sounds like Detonation to me... Bolts getting loose is a Good Sign

 

Me too but how would it be with the egts and plugs looking the way they do? And the ground strap is not turned color all the way down like the timing is too high and this is the tune up and timing we used last year and we even had it at least 5 sizes smaller on the pill trying to be safe?

 

Alky

You don't have top lube in your fuel do you??? Check your Alky

 

Fuel purchaced at the track and lube was mixed in ??

 

took it apart last night three hits and two passes on the rod bearings and they all new the only thing i found was the thing Robert said to look for it had .030 cam end play so the cam was walking......found the problem right? why would this only make the bottom timing cover and oil pan bolts come loose and the pump drive bolts still be tight ?

 

Any more news?

 

Gonna set cam end play to 0 and torque studs into the block with locktight and see what happens do really see anything else wrong

 

i started to say detonation on page one but wasnt for sure but i do know it will loossen bolts at bradenton fl on a qualifing run with a brand new motor and it was back several years when i was new to the ta/fc and the blown hemi after the run i was servicing the car going over everthing and the intake nuts were loose and i guy standing there ask what i was doing tighten the intake bolts after the run and i said they must have came loose and i thought dame he dont know nothing and i preceded to service my car the older guy came up and said excuse me your motor was detenating on that run and you should pull the heads off and check the pistons i thought what the f__k does he know and how would that loosen up bolts i still dont know how it does but it does but it got the best of me so i pulled the heads off guess what 8 sunk pistons 4 bent rods at that time it was the fastest qualified field ever in ta/fc in the mid 90s and im in it i seen the guy the next day and thanked him for his help he saved me a motor put new rods and pistion it and went out first round with a -002 he said i was to aggressive i didnt know there was such a thing but i really didnt know shit other than i could drive the shit out of a car oh the guys name was well he knew more than i did i learned later it was newberry who would have thought