Big O.. B.s.

I READ THIS MORNING BIG O TIRES IS SUING DICK MASKIN, ALONG
WITH SOME OTHER COMPANIES OVER THE WORD
..'BIG'..AND THE LETTER....'O'.
GIVE ME A BREAK AND HOW POTHETIC . ALTHOUGH IT MAY NOT
BE DIRESTLY RELATED TO THE A/FUEL DRAGSTER IT HAS
BULL TURD WRITTEN ALL OVER IT. IM GLAD I GOT OUT WHEN I DID.
BIG O IS TRYING TO KEEP THIS HUSH HUSH....

STORY TAKEN FROM TORCO COMPETITION PLUS




RICHARD MASKIN'S LEGAL BATTLE WITH BIG O TIRES
Written by Steve Ramirez
Wednesday, 27 September 2006



When it comes to drag racing, Richard Maskin has had very few peers.

The Michigan resident's resume includes several national event victories and being the mastermind behind the NHRA Pro Stock championship runs of veteran competitors Jim Yates and Jeg Coughlin Jr.

When Maskin competes, he usually comes out on top. But now, comes his biggest fight, and this one won't be won, or lost, on the quartermile dragstrip.

Maskin, and his Dart Machinery, LTD engine parts manufacturing company, which he founded in a Michigan garage in 1981, is the midst of a trademark battle with TBC Corporation and its Big O Tires subsidiary.

The issue lies with Dart's Big M cylinder heads and Big M engine blocks, which Maskin attempted to register with a U.S. trademark in 2000. Big O, per the Trademark Act of 1946, filed opposition to it.

"We came out with a cylinder head in the late '90s and called it the 'Big M,'" said Maskin, who has had the moniker 'Big M,' for more than 40 years. "Then we came out with (an engine) block about five years ago, and called it the 'Big M.' We applied for a trademark, and apparently (Big O) fought it.

"They started it couple years ago, and somehow it got set aside. Now they started it back up. Realistically, I've spent money on it two years ago, and now I'm spending money on it again. The problem is there is no confusion."

And there lies the foundation of the dispute.

According to U.S. trademark law, a particular party may apply to register a trademark. The United States Patent and Trademark Office then reviews it before publishing the application request in a gazette newsletter for any party with a registered trademark to oppose the application.

Big O Tires, Inc. filed it's opposition of the Dart's application to register in January, 2003, stating in it's notice to oppose the trademark that it believed it would be damaged by the registration of the 'Big M' trademark, citing likelihood of confusion.

Dart, represented by Maskin's attorney, Scott Keller of Warner Norcross & Judd, LLC, believes that since it sells to a specific market - drag racing competitors - and Big O markets to the everyday consumer, there would be no confusion in the two trademarks.

"Richard has been using this name for years," Keller said. "For this particular part, I believe it goes back to 1999. But 'Big M' is actually is his nickname. He's been known as "Big M" for 40 years. Our argument is that there would be no confusion between their trademark, Big O Tires, and our trademark, 'Big M' (cylinder heads and blocks) in what they are applied to and the circumstances they are used.

"Big O is a tire store. Dart, and Richard, sell engine blocks and engine heads to a a fairly sophisticated market (drag racing competitors). Joe Smith down the street, who drives his Volkswagen beetle is not going to replace an engine block, or engine head (with one from Dart). I'm sure Big O gets a certain share of automobile enthusiasts buying some things, but your run of the mill person in a Big O Tire store is just your average consumer out there buying tires for his car, or maybe getting his brakes serviced."



The case, which Keller said is similar to a civil trial but with the evidence gathered in paper form, is still in the discovery phase. Maskin is also in the position that if Dart doesn't get its trademark registered, he could face a multimillion dollar civil suit from Big O for trademark infringement, which could put Dart out of business.

"We really have no choice, but to fight it," Maskin said. "Because if we don't fight it, what happens. Their expectations is that they are a big company going after a little company and the little company can't afford to fight the litigation.

"The problem with that, well let's say I was willing to withdraw my trademark application. I withdraw and say, 'OK you're right; I'm wrong,' because that's what I would be admitting. Well, then all the 'Big M' blocks and all the 'Big M' heads I've sold, they could take me to court and say, 'He sold all these. He infringed on our trademark and he admitted he infringed on our trademark' ...they could sue for damages for however million of dollars. It could put us out of business. It's the big guy going after the big guy."

And, according to files viewed at http://www.uspto.gov/ , Big O has no qualms going after any company, big or small.



The TBC subsidiary has filed countless oppositions against various parties, including high-profile companies such as Overstock.com, Oakley, Goodyear Tire and Rubber Company, and Daimler-Chrysler Corporation.

Big O filed claims against Overstock for it's slogan, 'It's about the O,' and against Oakley, for it's trademark, 'O Store.'

Another intriguing opposition filed by Big O is a claim against Bigfoot Entertainment, an entertainment company that produces independent films, television shows and educational and corporate content.

"They don't seem to care who they file against," Keller said. "It could be against anybody. In Bigfoot Entertainment, the application was for previously recorded audio and video, mainly tapes, video cassettes, DVDs and CDs featuring music, comedies, science fiction and dramas, including fiction and nonfiction. It's DVDs and tapes. I don't think they sell that at Big O.

"There's a notion of trademark dilution, where you have a trademark that's very famous and you can prevent others from registering it, even for unrelated goods and services. But very few marks fit within that. It's typically for marks that are more unique.


"Now Bigfoot...everybody knows who Bigfoot is. It's not like its their term, where only they own it. It has a whole separate meaning. Yet they are going after somebody who is in entirely different business. At least Richard is in the automotive business. He is at least one step closer to them, unlike (Bigfoot Entertainment), or Overstock.com, where its because of their slogan, 'It's all about the O.' This people don't own the word 'Big' and they don't own the letter 'O.'"

Attorney Matthew Cuccias, whose firm Jacobson Holman, PLLC is representing Big O, declined to immediately comment on the matter.

Maskin said he offered a settlement, which Big O declined.

"We did make an offer to them, " Maskin said. "We asked, "What if we never, ever sell tires under the Big M trademark? Is that OK?' They thought about it a while and said, 'That's not OK. That's not enough of a concession.' Well, what is enough of a concession? There isn't anything that would be enough of a consession."

But 'Big M' will continue with his battle, and hope reason and common sense will eventually win out.

"We want to get the word out and make public what they are trying to keep private," Maskin said. "If we could get something out there that is truthful, maybe that would force these guys to back off."

 

Distain

My distain for layers goes way back. However someone in charge has to be behind this. This seems to be so far off the mark that it just shows the weakness of our judicial system. It costs money to defend any law suit and I feel sorry for Maskin. Looks like any judge woud throw this suit out as being frevilous. But then the lawyers would not make any money. Big O, shame on you. I am glad to see the story come out to the racing public. Hope they take this in consideration when making tire purchases. That is the only way to get these kind of peoples attention.

 

Boycott big zero

They aren't big o in my opinion, they are big zero. An overzealous attorney and management made up of buttheads. I for one wouldn't buy anything from big zero and I would encourage others to boycott their stores because of their predatory legal tactics. Does that same attorney spend time screwing customers out of their warranty claims also? Dave Germain

 

Better be careful or they will sue you for defamation! (LOL)

 

O bs

Never bought anything from big O, guess it's a certainty that it will remain that way!

 

JUST A FOLLOW UP ON THE..BIG O BS
LETTERS THAT HAVE BEEN WRITTEN AND COMMENTS MADE
ON TORCO-COMP-PLUS..... WHAT A SHAME


ASSININE
Written by Mitch Perkins
Monday, 09 October 2006
This is a cut and dried case of asinine lawyers with nothing better to do than file frivolous lawsuits against innocent companies.

Dart's " Big M" has nothing whatsoever incommon or any reference to Tires. and like the article stated, They don't " OWN" the word Big, or the letter "O". I can't even begin to fathom How they could possibly think Dart Machinery is infringing on a copywrite. With any reasonable Judge presiding over this case, it will be thrown out as frivolous, but then again, if a liberal judge hears the case, Maskin could be screwed.




OH HORSE FEATHERS
Written by Bruce Fulper
Monday, 09 October 2006
Just a note to let you know what I did. I wrote Big O and told them I was
an NHRA announcer, (I am) and that if they went thru with this nonsense I
would go out of my way to inform the public what schmucks they were for
wasting Maskins time and money.

I also informed them I'd use my web site to inform the public.

Haven't heard back from them - but maybe if the rest of the boys
(announcers) wrote them with the same message maybe they'd get the hint.

Frivilous horsexxxx anyway......

GET RICH QUICK SCHEME
Written by arapaho22 via email
Monday, 09 October 2006
It does not stand the test of reason or common sense to say you can not use the word "BIG" or the letter "OF" because of a trademark for a company selling tires.I could use this reasoning to get a trademark on every letter in the alphabet and sue every company that spells there name using one of my letters. WOW I would be rich for doing nothing.

MORE BIG O HATE MAIL
Written by Frank Tamez
Monday, 09 October 2006
It would be easy for you guys to "Mention" the word "Boycott". Big O is dead wrong and just playing bully. I for one will NEVER buy another tire from Big O. I own a car dealership and we purchase 50 to 100 sets per year. Big O Tires has just been taken out of the hat as far as my business is concerned. If enough racers do this it will likely get their attention. We gotta stick together and stand up for each other if we want this great sport to continue to get better.


BIG OOOOOOPS

 

Big O might want to rethink their law suit .
What about the "Big Mac" I beleive Mcdonalds has had this for a while.
Why don't they go after them or are the afraid!

 

Maybe McDonalds should sue Big O for using the word big. People might confuse tires for hamburgers, their both round and about the same color.