B/AD or A/Fool

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  1. nitroclovers

    nitroclovers New Member

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    Early in the year people were complaining about the lack of parity in TAD. Everyone said wait until Topeka. Well its here! Before they start running, will there be parity?
     
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  2. tjenna

    tjenna Top Alcohol

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    Not sure of the cars entered.

    But, if top runners from both sides are present, it is hard to not believe Reicherts recent low .20 and Finkes low .20 will be matched by any blown cars.

    Parity does not exist. A blown car can win, but will need some extra luck.

    We'll see
     
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  3. eli

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    The only way ther will be parity is if Ashly Force starts running a blown car.:rolleyes:
     
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  4. Dave Germain

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    Years ago when I ran a super comp car I used to complain about the alcohol cars. Seems like they oiled the track, got preferential treatment, made us run after dark or in the rain. Someplace along the way I decided it was easier to join them than fight them so I bought a TAFC. Fixed that problem but caused a million others. Seems like if I had a blown alcohol dragster I would change over to A/Fuel. If you can't beat them join them. I know if they allowed injected nitro motors in TAFC I would already have one.
     
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  5. Will Hanna

    Will Hanna We put the 'inside' in Top Alcohol
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    the switch

    if it was that easy just to switch, i'm sure everyone would have two cars...

    the switch is very expensive for starters. you'll spend 75k plus for a car capable of winning. once you buy a tuneup, buy at least two more sets of heads, enough clutch parts to run a race or two, you're getting close to 100k. oh, you want a spare motor....spares...etc. so this easy switch is anywhere from 100k to 150k+ before you even go to the track. if you want to do it 'right' and get everything you need you'll be over 200k.

    most don't have that kind of change laying around.

    most blown racers are self tuned deals these days. a blown racer probably has years of data and experience to fall back on. considering the work and money it takes to run any of these cars, its a safe bet he likes his combination. now he's faced with either making the switch to a/fuel or fc just because nhra won't do their job and keep the class even. nhra let the a/fuelers develop a new head for the heat, but they won't let the blown cars run a blower that has been around since 1997, 9 years ago now?

    then there's the whole it's cheaper bit.

    you might be able to take the savings and take your crew out to burger king, but they might have to eat off the childs menu at outback. also with more and more stout running a/fuelers out there, they are starting to push these motors hard. not to mention they eat clutch parts.

    a/fuelers will win out at this race. look for a reichert/torrence final. obannon will be a few clicks behind when it shakes out. thompson has been running strong, could be the spoiler with his conway tuned machine.

    we'll see how this shakes out, but i'm putting my money on the nitro cars.
     
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  6. Harry Rydbom

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    Dave; Why do you think they call it Alcohol Dragster and Alcohol Funny Car.
    They had know place to put A Fuel so they put it in ALCOHOL DRAGSTER!!! They need to seperate them!!!!!!!
     
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  7. ch3no2

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    How bout' that 5.43 in 3200 feet of air. That's pretty stout!
    Nice job Reichert!
     
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  8. nitroclovers

    nitroclovers New Member

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    As much of a nitro fan as I am , I want to see parity between the two combinations. Each has its positives. BAD has their leave, AFools have their noise, smell and pop, but, its watching, waiting to see who crosses the line first thats great! Is the c-type the least $ for BAD? What besides less % would slow AFools and not handicap them at certain weather/ altitudes?
     
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  9. tjenna

    tjenna Top Alcohol

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    So after one session - .13 hundreds between a Top Alcohol Dragster and the other.
     
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  10. nitroclovers

    nitroclovers New Member

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    After two rounds, its AFool-BAD-AFOOL-BAD-AFool. Yes, Reichert is ahead of OBannon by .11, but, OBannon is ahead by how much on third. Maybe its just those two?
     
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  11. ch3no2

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    Whatever!!!!!!! The other A-fuel cars are sucking. Just because Reicherts got his shit together everyone starts whining again. When santos was running 20's in the blown car nobody else was with a blower. If Bill was running 50's here like the rest of the a-fuel cars O'bannon would be #1. You can't base your argument on one guy who lives and breathes this stuff every waking minute of every day.

    I think he should have been on the cover of this weeks national dragster, not Ashley Force. He's won 7 of his last 9 races and 3 in a row. I say congrats to him for having the best tune-up of either combination.
     
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  12. nitrohawk

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    BAD Nice run at Red River Div. 4

    Callaway made one qualifing pass at this race and ran a 5.407 which turned out to be only .003 from low et. Also top speed at the time. Temp was 93 deg. adjusted alt. 3200 feet. Nice run Lee. Took Torrence 3 runs to get to 5.404.
     
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  13. nitroclovers

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    Good to see Callaway running, at all! Too bad he's not at Topeka.
     
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  14. nitroclovers

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    After 1 round at Topeka, it's 4 A/Fools against 4 BAD's. Is that parity?????
     
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  15. b daddy

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    Seems kind of funny last week NHRA reminds all that power mist and all oxygen exiter fuel are not permitted and will be checked and all classes including tad slow down considerably HUM?????????????????????????????? ANY INPUT
     
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  16. D. Palmer

    D. Palmer TA/FC

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    John Finke went 5.284 @ 270.27 in his final round victory at the Maple Grove Div 1 points race this evening, doesn't look like they slowed down very much :rolleyes:
    Ya ever think just maybe it could be the 94 degree weather, 3700-3900 foot corrected altitude, and 105-125 degree track temp. affecting performance's in Topeka, and not the lack of some secret fuel additives??? ;) Just a thought :D
     
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  17. xXx

    xXx TAD Temp guy

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    Semi's 3 B/AD 1 A/Fool

    Looks like Topeka may belong to the B/AD's. Could be Demke vs. Obannon in the Final.
    Go Chris!!!!!
     
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  18. xXx

    xXx TAD Temp guy

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    Topeka Finals

    Couldn't ask for a better final round, Demke vs Obannon, or should I say Maddern vs. Grimes. 2 Finals in 2 years at Topeka for Chris time for a WIN!!!

    GO PEEN RITE GANG!!!!
     
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  19. alky racer

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    There is no proof that anyone has been useing the additives that NHRA is now testing for. Topeka was the start of NHRA using the CG test to look for things such as powermist. They do not have the equipment to check the fuel at divisional events. It takes about 15 min for the computer to run a full check so no one would know if they had failed till some time after. NHRA has said that they are going to take fuel samples at divisional events and take them back to there lab to test after each event till the divisions can get the proper equipment. How they will deal with anyone caught cheeting has not been explained yet. The only thing I have heard is that the punishment will be very hefty including some kind of suspension. I still hope there are not any racers in our class that would do something like this.
     
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