rear main on tfx hemi block

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  1. chuck weck

    chuck weck Member

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    anyone else experiencing rear main bearing probs in a screw blower application?:mad:

    would love to hear what causes (other than obvious low oil pressure)
    clutch out of balance?
    clutch overheated and no longer concentric?
    trans?
    crank?

    oil pressure is very good,
    bellhousing is centered and on same plane as block
    tfx block and crank were new
    car has shaken tires more often than not

    what would you check????
     
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  2. big wheel

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    some wisdom south

    check your pm
     
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  3. Dave Germain

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    I have never ran a TFX block but if it is oiled similar to the chrysler blocks the rear main is the last thing in the oil sequence. The motor is pressurized from the front to the back and the oil supply is bled off as it moves rearward. Added into that equation is the heat generated in the clutch that is transferred by the crank shaft to the rear main. So a hot spot from clutch heating and low oil flow=burned rear main bearings. That is just my uneducated opinion- Dave Germain
     
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  4. eli

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    When you shake the clutch it wears out the rear main, My brother Victor fixed that problem with the plastic ring that the fuel cars run it goes behind the flywheel between the flex plate and the back of the flywheel, it keeps the fly wheel from flexing.
     
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  5. chuck weck

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    thank you

    the ring makes perfect sense, as the midplate showed serious gouging from the starter ring attachment screws

    source for the ring? any idea who sells them?

    thanks for the help with the replies

    Chuck
     
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  6. eli

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  7. Will Hanna

    Will Hanna We put the 'inside' in Top Alcohol
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    many causes

    what type of oil do you run?

    clutch could certainly be out of balance. you may want to try rotating the hat 180 instead of lining the numbers up.

    flywheel could be out. Bent stands, bent flywheel will pick on a spot on the rear main.

    i believe you can oil the rear main directly on a tfx or bae/kb through the fitting on the back of the block. may want to look into that.

    if it's been fixed, may want to check clearance.

    how tight is a new bearing in the cap?

    check your fingers. are they all loose when the clutch is zero'ed? check air gap after warm up and check to see if the wear is half ass even.

    we chased a rear main problem with the main & martinets car this year with one motor. after different flywheels, two line bores and sending the crank back twice, switching from 70 wt to 50 wt seemed to fix the problem. the throttle hung on that motor in reading which hurt it the first time, then every run on that motor after that, it would beat up the rear. we changed flywheels, reline bored it, etc. we had to use that motor in dallas and it blackened the rear main first and second round. we had cracked a cap in the other motor, so we had to run that motor. we ran out of our 70 wt and had to run 50 wt. after sanding on it two rounds, in the semi's and the final, the bearing wasn't black.

    we ran that motor another six runs in noble, ok the next weekend and you would have argued with me that the rear main had been blackened twice.
     
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  8. john348

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    Ti flywheel???
     
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  9. chuck weck

    chuck weck Member

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    rear main probs

    it's aluminum flywheel

    run 60wt oil

    roughly even wear on stands after warm up and the fingers are not tight or cocked

    hat is real hard to get off, all 6 studs are moved out enough that we need to whack them with a dead blow to get hat off...and push the step washers in with a socket and a tap to get back on

    the bearings fit same (tight) as when new after 1st repair in the cap

    to start Im gonna send clutches to crower, when I called Roger he suggested the flywheel may have lost its 'rockwell' from overheating

    when youre just a squirrell trying to find a nut, like we are, it helps to get pointed in the right direction:rolleyes:
     
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  10. bruce mullins

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    you definatly need to spin balance the clutch. i had a problem with it once.
     
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  11. RonH

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    When you send the clutch to get re-certed see if they can install some Carbide buttons in the backside of the Flywheel. You should also oil the rear main. Like Wil said there should be provision at the back of the block up on top near the bellhousing.
     
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  12. aj481x

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    Chuck...........Just curious, do you push the clutch pedal down right at the finish line, or coast on the motor?
     
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  13. chuck weck

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    thanks again for all the responses, all make great sense

    1)I do TRY to push in clutch on every run after dumping chutes and cross line, but being as I suffer from D.L.S. (drive like shit) there is no guarantee that we dont go hundred feet or so engine braking, :p

    2)the old small stand/alum flywheel 10" clutches seem to be the root cause of the problem (cant take the heat and abuse) and I will go at the prob from that angle (ti upgrade flywheels-10.7 large stand-may even test a bruno&converter)

    3)it is a plueger oil pump, is there a outlet to run a line to the port at the top of motor front of bellhousing? or where am I sourcing the supply from?

    you guys are great!

    regards
    Chuck
     
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  14. eli

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    You can use the oil pressur line, just T into it.
     
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