beadlocks vs liners

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  1. sean70ss

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    Can someone give me the differnace between using liners and beadlocks. Are beadlocks worth using? I see some alchol guys not using the beadlocks. Do liners work better to stop tire shake?

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    Sean
     
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    Yes but they are very unpredictable on a door car Sean, almost down right dangerous.
     
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    beadlocks

    I kind of wondered that especially with the weight etc. Thanks for responding. Sean
     
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    Will Hanna We put the 'inside' in Top Alcohol
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    liners vs beadlocks

    the liner tires are more forgiving on the tuneup. i think for a couple of reasons. i think the liner acts like a dampner for the tire. it doesn't let the tire get out of shape as bad as the tire alone on the beadlocks.

    the liner also doesn't let the tire squat as far. it doesn't bite as hard as the beadlock either. so it's easier to get wheelspeed and gives a wider tuneup window. if you don't hit the beadlock just right at the hit, it hooks, then spins, hooks then spins until it just knocks the tires off.

    the pro mods have to run beadlocks. don't have any experience there to say whether they are safe or not. i know some racers were running tires just screwed to the rim rather than having liners or beadlocks.

    according to legend, santos' championship winning cars in the late 90's and early 2000's had special beadlock rims that had tube/liners inside...
     
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    beadlocks

    Would a tube on a beadlock rim help? or would it bound up inside the wheel?

    Thanks sean
     
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    I dont see how, the liner wheel has 2 tubes, one against the sidewall and one against the tread. If you have the tubes then you might as well run the liner wheel because you have gained nothing but the weight of the beadlock rings.
     
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  7. Travis Q

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    Jason Scruggs had liners on at the Huntsville ADRL race, and went 3.85 @ 196 with them. Went a string of .80s and .90s and won the race, too. They can't be all bad for a door car!
     
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    1/8 mile and 196 being the keywords there. Promods are going as fast as 245 in the 1/4 (real racing). I would look closely at what Jay Payne is running seeing how he runs both TAFC where liners rule and promod where beadlocks dominate.
     
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    could the answer be the type of suspension you are running = hard tail gets away with either a liner or wheel screws and a rear suspended racecar needs to use beadlocks? you can find your answer by taking video tape of your racecar doing a burnout and looking at the tube/rim. when i saw what i was driving i started using beadlocks and learned how to tune the car. if you can see the inside of the rim on a tubed/liner you will want to find a way to secure the tire to the rim and not have a 2" gap between the tire bead and the rim. my guess is the the rules changed to cause suspended racecars (prostocks) to keep from having serious accident whereas the beadlocks created at tuning problem that was soon solved. one can only remember the infamous missing "black book" one top pro stock team had that had all the "beadlock technology" to refresh our memories on the problems converting from liners/screws to beadlocks. but think again - has the pro stock beadlocks solved their problems? might have caused more tire shake but they also appear to be safer on the top end of the track. a good pro stock team only needs 1 run and a non changing track to dial in their car.
     
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