Idea for the blown cars

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  1. wolfgang

    wolfgang New Member

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    here's an idea to present at the TARA meeting- taken directly from IHRA. As you know, Keith Stark simply could not run the number to be competitive in the first few events, so they changed the rule to allow nitrous to be used with the afuel combination.

    While it would be nice if NHRA would allow more modern supercharger technology, maybe something else could work.

    What if NHRA allowed the blown alcohol dragsters to run nitrous in order to gain the extra 2 tenths?

    I'm not sure how much this would change things (for example, how many more pistons a racer would go through in a season if any), but maybe it would be something to be explored.


    Wolfgang
     
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  2. ch3no2

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    2 tenths? I don't think they need to make up that much! Maybe 6 or 7 hundreths.
     
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  3. tjenna

    tjenna Top Alcohol

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    How about letting the PSI blower be modified?
     
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  4. maddhatter

    maddhatter Jr. Dragster

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    Why not limit the percentage of nitro ?? There hasn't been an overdrive change to help the rootes guys for a long time as well.
     
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  5. ch3no2

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    Even at 98% this just kills the nitro cars. It's not like top fuel
     
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  6. white lightnin

    white lightnin New Member

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    This might not just be in right field but over the fence. Why don,t we put all the national events on the schedule, make half of them for injected cars and half for the blown cars given what might be more popular for that area. I don't know most fans I talk to love seeing both.
     
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  7. bernie

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    What nitro percentage is the norm ? We don't have
    AFD in Europe so I'm curious on this.
     
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  8. Michael Gunderson

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    straight from the drum 100%
     
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  9. bernie

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    Thanks for the % Michael. Can I ask a bit more info please. How many gallons a run is a typical figure and how much $$ is nitro a gallon in the US.?
     
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  10. Michael Gunderson

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    We use between 5 and 6 gallons a run not including warmup. The price stands at 850 a drum at this time.
     
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  11. bernie

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    Thanks I see the USA based economics much clearer now. Nitro V Alky Very enlightening !
    We pay about US$1350 a barrel for nitro and $200 for alky.
    I'm suprised you use so little fuel per run. I expected much more. Besides our blown alky car I also run a 150 inch nitro Harley that uses 1.5 galls of 98% per run. These are really just part of an A fuel motor. One guy in Europe uses the end 2 cylinders off a KB and runs 6s
     
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  12. 310TAD

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    While it is commonly reffered to as 100%, out of the drum, VP informed me that it averages 98.5% in the drum. The rest is impurities.
    Someone very high up in the food chain has records of an AF/D running quicker than BA/D capabilities at 95%.

    Neat conversation.
     
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  13. Michael Gunderson

    Michael Gunderson New Member

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    Those bad drums must be when we run so bad.
     
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  14. 310TAD

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    Hi Micheal,
    Where you been. I snuck back down to Bristol this year, to see the old gang, but you musta been laying on the beach.
    Hope to see you again soon. It is always a blast racing with you.

    Take care,
    Marty
     
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  15. ch3no2

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    No nitro car running 95% is going to be competitive.
     
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  16. maddhatter

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    sounds like everyone has given up on the blown deal , might as well throw em all in the heap with the Ford deal and the Rootes. Who does a guy need to know which way the rules will go, so you can buy low sell high? lol. What will happen when the A/FD's are running as fast as the TF's, as the rules take away percentages and wing angle? Anyone see a rule change in A/FD?
     
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  17. Rapid Transit

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    Here is one way it could go.
    After all the BAD's have gone away and all that is left is the AFD's, then the class starts to get a little boring, as the AFD's are going quicker and faster and closer to the TF's NHRA decides they are too much like the TF's (without the huge major sponsors) and so they start them on a slow death.
    Naw.. never mind that will NEVER happen, right? ;)
     
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  18. Blown Hemi

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    Just a thought… Morgan Lucas got a Top Fuel ride. Now I know he may still run a few races this year in TAD but next year I’d guess he’ll only run Top Fuel. If that’s the case then the sponsor of the entire sportsman class, including TAD (LUCAS OIL) will not have a vested interest in a AFD. With that being said maybe NHRA would not have a problem slowing down the AFD combo (AKA slowing down Forrest Lucas’s car). Just a thought…
     
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  19. tjenna

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    Maybe the AFD cars should just volunteer to run a lower percentage of nitro or just leave late to give the blown cars a better chance.
     
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