7 TAFC's in San Antonio

That's the lowest car count I've seen from them in years!

 

Just to far to go!!

 

Will, most of those guys in IHRA don't want the PSI. If they wanted the change, I'm sure IHRA would allow it.

 

Just leave the rules as is and let them run together . Unlimited cubes for roots and 528 for screw ??
Ian

 

HEY MAD. Bigger motor doesnt mean more power!you can only fill the cyclinder so fast.roots motors manifold temp is about 40 degrees hotter than a screw. the kobelco rotors help this problem a bunch by not leaking up the center of the rotors as bad.(recirculating the air).the smaller the motor(cubic inches)the more effective the blower becomes.there are only a few who can afford to figure the trade offs!

 

will hanna has the right idea,there is not enough ta/fc's to go around now!unification of the rules in both nhra-ihra would be a shot in the arm for groups!!

 

Unification ........ thats crazy talk ! doesn't TAD prove 2 differing combinations cannot compete with parity and without issues . There are plenty of Roots racers out there , just not in the southwest . It is a new market for IHRA,and the Roots blower is currently the lesser of 2 evils as far as cost go but there may be no participants that are willing to try it in that market area , after all it is mostly an NHRA and screw market as far as TAFC competitors go. It was a shame for the fans, and dissappointing for us competitors not to have a full field and it is the only time I can remember in 15 years that their wasn't a full field .


NOTE: In racing starved Edmonton (also a new IHRA market) there are no less than 6 new teams that have assembled Roots TAFC combinations to compete. It would be nice If we all could afford the big expense to have both combinations but unfortunately the PSI combination is just out of reach for some .... and those that have a PSI would not dare consider retracing their steps to a Roots set up .

 

nobody runs the roots setup in nhra with conpetitive et's,having said this,and being in texas with a ta/fc-with a psi blower setup-ihra only runs one national event in this part of the country,does not run ta/fc at div events,it does not make sense to put a roots setup back on the car to run one race a year for ihra,then run nhra nationals and div races and not be conpetitive because of that change!! can't afford both combinations to run both ihra-nhra races.it just looks like the lesser of two evils is the way nhra does it with some modifications to the rules in someway to make the roots setups be better-or slow the psi cars down,most people would not go for that idea!!

 

Same topic on the IHRA message board, http://ihra.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=102

This is the reply I left with them,
Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 7:09 am Post subject:

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There was an NHRA division four LODRS race this past weekend in Memphis,and there are only a few cars in the area that still run the roots style of supercharger, it is cost prohibitive for us to have a complete different set-up,and fuel system to run at one race,,IHRA races are to far and in between,in this area,so the cars in this part of the world have all opted for the screw compressors,I miss running the IHRA races,as we we're always treated so well by the IHRA,hopefully as IHRA expands westward,maybe things will change,And we used to match race at least twice a year at the old Alamo Dragway,so San Antonio is still one of our favorite destinations,we are just about to start our 25th alky funny car anniversary tour,(1979-2004)and all those that have supported us all these years,we thank you,and good luck to all the alky funny guys this year.
Let em know what you think,

 

ROOTS AREN'T CHEAPER THAN SCREW- PRICE A KOBELCO AND THEN BUY 2 OF THEM AND SERVICE THEM CONTINUOUSLY- vs. PSI THAT NEVER NEEDS TO COME OFF ALL YEAR- As your boost changes every run with the Roots, you will have to change your tune up every pass - fun eh? People in Alberta just spent 10.000.00 to change for 1 IHRA race and will get to go 2 tenths slower and get their butt kicked at all the local match races by the first PSI car to come to town- REAL SMART! i LIVE HERE AND HAVE A F/C- sure don't plan on a roots- thats for sure! On the humerous side- maybe Calgarians are smarter than Edmontonians? MAYBE NOT! LOL

 

Just shows the one dimensional ignorance to spout off on something you don't know about R4K, Maybe the Guys you call dumb Edmontonians are supporting their track , developing and supporting their local sponsors and having fun while you sit in the stands telling the guy next to you how fast you would have been . You are not even close on the cost difference and efficiency of a Kobelco we can get 10-16 passes on a roots now and service it only at home, it never requires an "update" "recertification"... but of course all that is included when you buy a PSI right ? Why not support the guys who did chose to run the event and may not yet be able to have the huge budget and vast knowledge that you have.

The people and racers from Edmonton and surrounding locales who came to the event were a pleasure to meet and were very friendly it must be as great for them to look up to you when you are # 1 qualifier at a National Event, as it is for you to talk down to them !
Come on Just for fun, remind everyone on here how fast you are , go ahead tell us ..... I know I'm on the edge of my seat !

 

Hey Les, are you guys planning on running any NHRA races this year? I thought I saw where Rob had stated that you were going to run a few.

 

WELL LES- TYPICAL EASTERN KNOW IT ALL! FIRST YOU ARE UNABLE TO SEE THE HUMEROUS RIVALRY BETWEEN CALGARY and EDMONTON.
SECOND- HOW FAST = 5.82 LAST YEAR DEVELOPING A NEW COMBO- SHOULD IMPROVE AT DIV 6 OPENER IN MISSION.
CREWED ON A CAR THAT RAN 5.38 LAST YEAR IN EDMONTON AND HAD A BLAST (EDMONTON PUTS ON A GREAT RACE- THE TOPIC IS ROOTS VS PSI AND YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY UNABLE TO REFUTE THE FACT THAT YOU SERVICE THE BLOWER, EVEN IF YOU DON'T DO IT OFTEN ENUFF!ON YOUR CAR! BY THE WAY- IS IT YOUR CAR? ARE YOU THE DRIVER? DO YOU THINK IT'S SMART TO GO SLOWER AT A HIGHER COST TO SUPPORT THE PROMOTER- MY GUESS IS THAT THE PROMOTER WILL NOT BE CHECKING BLOWERS WHEN HE BOOKS IN A MATCH RACE-
SO TO SUM UP- I THINK THE EDMONTON PROMOTER IS GREAT -I THINK IHRA IS GREAT AND TREATS RACERS IN A WONDERFUL WAY- I THINK ALL THE F/C RACERS THAT I KNOW IN ALTA AND SURROUNDING AREA ARE GREAT - YOU ON THE OTHER HAND ARE WELCOME TO BRING "YOUR" CAR OUT HERE OR ARRANGE A MATCH RACE WHEN/IF WE COME TO ONTARIO WE CAN DO IT THERE- I GUARANTEE THAT "YOUR" CAR WON'T CUT IT! IF "YOUR" CAR IS REALLY THE IHRA CHAMP AND NOT REALLY "YOUR" CAR, IT'S STILL NOT GOING TO BEAT AN NHRA PREPPED CAR- SO GROW UP!!!!! YOU MAKE A REAL SMART TEAM LOOK STUPID, IF IT IS INDEED THE ATCHESON CAR THAT YOU CLAIM IS "YOUR" CAR!
IF FOR SOME REASON, YOU CAN QUIT PATTING YOURSELF ON THE BACK FOR A WHILE CAUSE YOU ARE SO MUCH SMARTER THAN ME, WHO YOU THINK IS SITTING IN THE GRANDSTAND, COME OVER TO THE FUEL PITS THIS YEAR AND SAY HI- YOU ARE LIKELY NICER IN PERSON THAN ON THE KEYBOARD. YOU CAN TEACH ME ABOUT ALKI AND I WILL EXCHANGE SOME CH3NO2 INFO.

[ April 01, 2004, 09:18 AM: Message edited by: was R4K ]

 

LMAO!!!!

 

"WHOW" maybe one day I could be that good ... ED

 

R4K, wasn't your 5.82 run in a dragster ?.

 

YES IT WAS A DRAGSTER-My Eastern friend accused me of being a grandstand QB and asked how fast I have run- I answered- Maybe he could tell me how fasr he runs! Not sure about your comment Ed, so I won't make a statement- Seeing as how I didn't say I was good, I will leave it to Les to answer as he sure implied that he was.
And one more thing- I believe Kevin Theres is selling his PSI and replacing it with a Kobelco to run IHRA, so there goes your statement -

NOTE: In racing starved Edmonton (also a new IHRA market) there are no less than 6 new teams that have assembled Roots TAFC combinations to compete. It would be nice If we all could afford the big expense to have both combinations but unfortunately the PSI combination is just out of reach for some .... and those that have a PSI would not dare consider retracing their steps to a Roots set up .

 

You tell him R4K.