ProMod Finally Using the PSI Bloower

Discussion in 'PSI Superchargers Tech Questions' started by Mike Canter, Jan 29, 2006.

  1. Mike Canter

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    Outlaw Promods finally woke up to what blowers TA/FC using. Now Troy Critchley (an Aussie) has a new door car with a PSI and the top secret INKY Valve for fuel control. This is the way the Aussie PM run down under. This is going to wake up a lot of Roots blower guys. It raises the bar to a new level.
    For those that don't know what an Inky valve is a fuel metering device designed specificly by Ian (Inky) Cleland for PSI blowers that fits in one of the holes on a dual mag drive. It meters fuel based on RPM. I wonder how he will see the staging light from the left lane.

    http://www.promodsource.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1983
     
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  2. WIZBANG

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    Inky valve

    Inky valve ??????

    WHERE CAN I BUY SUCH THE ANIMAL ?
     
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  3. Les Mellows

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    Inky Valve

    That was not Troys motor ?? That is Peter Kapiris' shop and his car . Troy may get one ?? but thats not what the article says if you read it closely . And as far as inky's go what did it do for Ian and Peter ??? Speed record ? no , first in the fives ? no , multiple Top Doorslammer championships ? no , Fortunes for Inky sales ?? no . I suggest maybe that it cured a dilemna they had at one time , and because of its Effect at that time and place in their program it seemed to be the answer others in Top Doorslammer would have to have. Not so , as proven by Victor and Ben and Zappia . I say it's SMOKE and MIRRORS and not the tuning answer that its cracked up to be.

    P.S - There is a guy in California that makes a part that if correct in size it is totally adjustable in metering to rpm and it runs off the camshaft also ..... A guy named Waterman makes it (Little Bertha) .
     
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    Good stuff.
     
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  5. Mike Canter

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    I agree Les, but if they can make the PSI work and get traction they may get faster. I agree that even with the Aussie PM's using the PSI already that their ET is not much better but they do MPH for a door car. This is going to be only used in 1/8 mile so it will be interesting. They will be at Valdosta on the weekend of 17 Feb. I understand that the Inky has really helped in getting rid of tireshake.

    Now about marketing the Inky, I don't think they have tried. I think they only build them in ones and twos and not many more. Why I do not know.
     
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  6. Mike Canter

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    Les, I think the article is really only talking about the Aussies down under and that picture on Promodsource is in fact the car that Troy is going to drive here in the US of A. Doesn't somebody by the name of Dave Wood actually own Troy's AMS Promod. If so this car can only be used in the Outlaw ProMod events.
     
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  7. Will Hanna

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    electronics in fuel sys.

    i may be wrong, but from what i know of this device, or at one point in time it runs off an old psi rev limiter that in turn controls the valve, to control fuel via engine rpm. i could be wrong...just off what i heard.

    the problem in bringing this into the top alcohol ranks is that you cannot have electronic timers or controls in the fuel system. in pro mod you can have electronic controls.

    whether or not it is 'the' thing to do or just another way to skin a cat remains to be seen. without seeing how this thing actually works, one would think the results could be reproduced with multi-stage fuel management.

    i do remember when capri put it on, he ran about a tenth ahead of the pack. i don't know if that's standard issue with the aussies now or not...

    one of the things i've learned from working under tom conway in the past was 'these cars aren't that smart'....
     
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  8. Mike Canter

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    Will the Inky valve is totally mechanical. No electronics.
     
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  9. big wheel

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    mike the screw blower has been in adrl and outlaw for some time 7-8 years ,mcdonald 53 vette, hugh scott , scruggs 63, all three 4.00 30 eight mile times. just not as easy on things as some belive. mabye he will have better luck than those cars
     
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  10. big wheel

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    60ft .950 262 330 400 187.96 huntsville bougus 60 ? belle rose .961 drag stock .951 car abort these ausses use the lock up the 60 shows it . big top end charge on the other end.
     
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  11. Lonnie Houde

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    We just bought a D-Rotor PSI for our door car! Also have a clutch management system in the car. Mike that car that your looking at is in Australia. You can tell by the vehicle parked in back of it.

    P.S. Les Mellows is THE MAN!!
     
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  12. jclay

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    Guys the lock up clutch has only been used in OZ for about the last year in TD. The Brays have gone 240 plus without it and have only recently put one in their cars. Not even sure if they are actually using it. Kaparis was one of the quick guys probably 4 years ago but has struggled since then. He has taken a break from racing for most of this season. The inky valve was supposed to be the big weapon on their car but as you know Zappia got the
    5. I would think that when Bray's get the new car sorted it should run some big numbers. They are predicting into the 250 mph range.
    John C
     
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  13. Mike Canter

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    Agreed the picture is in Aussie land because of the European type washing machine in the back left corner but that doesn't mean it has not been shipped up here already. I guess time will tell.
     
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  14. Les Mellows

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    Troy / Dave Wood

    Mike ,I believe Dave Wood and Troy are awaiting 2 '70 cudas , 1 from Vanishing Point and 1 from Jerry Bickel I think ?? Maybe wrong but I can't see the sense in shipping an old Stude from Oz to here with the Fleet of Cars they already have . I also Agree that a PSI D on a good Doorslammer here will have the ability to run possibly high 5.8 @ 246 +, but it will take some time or know how to do it, they have a head start in Oz but may not have our track preparation or conditions to help them .

    NOTE :The Lock up clutch has been tested in Oz , but I don't think it has made the impact or reached the possible potential yet . I Don't think Victor or Ben are regular users of it yet. The Lock up has no bearing on the 60' on it's own if thats what you implied (big wheel) ?
     
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  15. TOL

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    Hey Les. What are your thoughts about a PSI C versus D for Outlaw?........
     
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  16. Les Mellows

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    I don't Know anything about the "C" to "D" blowers In comparison, But if You are running Outlaw I can't imagine that a "D" at 125 over can't be enough to get the Job done and the blowers are readily available for sale. There is also a lot of very good people out there with lots of info on the "D" that may be relative to what you need .
     
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  17. OzAlky

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    Les is exactly correct, including the advice about the part from California.
     
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