Mid West Blown Alcohol Association

any one out there wanna get a mid west blown alcohol association started? open to ....dragsters, altereds, funny cars, ect. if your like us we wanna just go ( racing) and try to make a few bucks...if we can get a good booked in show with a good car count this thing will work!!!!! but it takes more than just one person. I have acess to a t-shirt screen printing shop..we could have cool shirts and also sell cool shirts..might have a printing shop that will print out souvenir programs....POST AND LET ME KNOW...OR CALL ME

SECOND WIND RACING
Dave ''chrome'' Lowe
620-249-5909
620-231-5583

 

You bet I am interested! Lets do it:

Hi Dave,

You bet I am interested!
I have been looking for just this type of origination to hook up with. I agree with you, it will take off if we can get enough guys involved. I know there are enough cars around the Midwest that we should be able to put on good shows and make a few bucks taboot.
I am in Minneapolis Minnesota and have a early 90’s BB/FC that would be perfect for match racing.
It seems like all the other alcohol groups are on the coasts or down south. We really need something in this part of the country, after all there are a lot of good tracks to run on in the Midwest with a few new ones in the works.
Ill be happy to help recruit members.
So come on you guys lets make it happen!

 

Just some suggestions that we use on the West Coast. We have a race group called "Top Eliminator West". We allow any type of fuel, any type of chassis and any engine combination or size. That allows a larger group to fill the show. And the people love to see funny cars or altereds running against dragsters. We also have a 6.30 ET bottom to keep the cost within reason. Heads up 4/10 tree.
Just passings on some ideas..........have fun.

 

Dave
Why not combine effort with the UDRA, and make a strong group stronger!

When you get to many people trying to "whore” out the show, it just cheapens it up too much. I really think this is why The UDRA has remained all these years.
I believe Dwayne Nichols is doing the marketing again for them this year so they should get quite a few races.
They all ready have 6 races/dates posted on their site
US 131
Toronto
Norwalk
To name first 3
www.udra.com

 

John, Ron, Joe, thanks for the input atleast you guys are reading the post. at the moment it is just to much to run a compleat div. nhra way to much$$$$$$$$$$ and yes...I wanna feel my eyeballs at the back of my head!!! let's see if we can make this work

second wind racing

 

swr,
Sorry I never returned your phone call you left for me a while back. I will get you the name of the manager for a really nice 1/8 mile track in Iowa. Track is for sale and not sure what is happening yet. I will let you know who to call. I have a BAD in progress should have it ready in 2007 I will be ready to race with you.
My input on the circut is leave the rules wide open to start with so you get a lot of cars to get the interest going.

Rusty Kramer

 

Good to see you here Rusty. Let us know when you hear anything.

Rapid

 

I spoke with Dan Lucas at UDRA today and as of now there are no races for T/AD cars yet in there current race schedule just funny cars. I am not 100% sure so don't hold me to this I don't think they have any races yet for pro mods either.

Bob Kraemer

 

Ncs Afta

I have given this some more thought and have come up with a few good ideas that I would like to hear your feedback on.

Here is what I propose we form, AFTA (Alcohol Fuel Timing Association) to bring all the alcohol racers together across the nation. This can be done by establishing regional chapters such as,
NWC (North West Chapter)
SWC (South West Chapter)
NCC (North Central Chapter)
SCC (South Central Chapter)
NEC (North East Chapter)
SEC (South East Chapter)
This would give us 6 chapters to work with and establish a match race playing field with a set of match race rules making it work for all of us.
Your feedback is most welcome here. I’m afraid if we do a heads up all out match race deal then this would kill the game before it even started due to the fact that some teams are fortunate enough to be able to build a car to run in the low 5’s witch would be unobtainable to most of the other teams in the association. So it must be a system structured so it will work for all of it’s participants to grow.
I propose we follow an index format.
Supercharged cars, 6.50 for F/C, 6.30 for Dragsters, Altards?
Injected alcohol cars 7.50 for F/C, 7.30 for Dragsters, Altards?
I am sure there will be other types of cars that could be brought into AFTA making the show that much more fun for the fans and its participants.

There seams to be a lot of this type of structuring going on in a lot of the regional groups now so why not pull together and form am association that represents all of us?

There is strength in numbers so to do this would give us the strength that would be needed to gain media recognition resulting in televised exposure and event sponsorship. This is starting to happen with some of the regionally adapted groups that exist now.
Don’t get me wrong here now, I am not suggesting that we phase out the specialty organizations that exist now; some of them will still be needed to support the following that they have created such as the nostalgia game. What I am proposing is a gathering of all the independent organizations that are out there now to come together for the better of our hobby and to establish a fare playing field so we can get together run one another and have a fare chance of winning races.



Joe

 

Some personal thought's, I think the name of the group needs to reflect a broad range of car types. Something like "Outlaw Racers Association". Limiting the name to "Alcohol" would not reflect that nitro or gas could be fuel sources. It would also be a name that would reflect Nitro Altereds or Alcohol Altereds, same with Funny Cars, Dragsters, Pro Mods or in my case blown gas dragster.
Second, I think the index needs to be fix'd and it's heads up Pro start racing. Remember, the fastest car on the type of tracks you'll be running is not always the winner. Mostly it's, who can get from point A to point B the best under power.
Have at least a 8 car qualifying show with alternates to fill the 8 cars if someone can't make the first round.
Setting the index at 6.50 or 6.30 or even 6.00 (personaly, I like the 6.30 or 6.0) provides for some good racing with crowd appeal. And that's exactly what you'll have to target, putting on a good show for the race fans. Without that, the track owners will not even give a second look.
That's my thought's anyway.......

 

ron...great idea...john I think your idea is also good far as a name ron, you are most right!!!!!! a name for allas far as an index i like heads up''but it will kill it before it gets started, put an in dex on it make it so some slower cars can make it. make it were you have to run 7 flat or quicker to even get in the show and cap it off were you can't run faster than 6.30's in your time runs to get in the show.. if we have 3 time runs and you wanna run one of you time runs BALLS OUT that is ok but it won't count..just some ideas maybe not the best....but trying and wanting....

Dave CHROME Lowe

 

A few more name ideas

Here are a couple of names Let me know what you think and can come up with.

MRTA Match Racers Timing Association
ODRTA Outlaw Drag Racers Timing Association

So far I think the MRTA (Match Racers Timing Association) name pretty much covers everything we are doing outside of the NHRA & IHRA sanctioned events. Not only will the forming of this type of association bring all of us match racers together under one adopted set of rules it will also show the marketing world that we are here, strong and organized across the entire nation. I also believe that booking events will become easier if we can show a strong structure to our supporters.

 

All the time that I have spent with Jim Maher I can tell you what the promotors do not like. These things can and will leave a bad mark for future shows. #1. To sell a show you must have a commitment. 4,6, or 8 cars must be commited. If you show up 1 car short the promotor will feel that they did not get the show that you agreed upon and then the club gets a pay cut. #2. Performance. You must repete your performance every time. With the index lowered to 6.0s there is a tremendous amount of stress and maintenance. Ron C may agree with me that performance is a major +. He was one of the only ones that could keep up with my brother inlaw. We are now broke $$$$ going for the championship. #3. There need to be someone who can dedicate countless hours of time in talking to people who might want to become a member. Who can talk to and sell a show to promotors. TEW on the west coast need someone like that. You need a structor, A plan of attack to make it work. I have watched sevral potental clubs and all have fallen due to these reasons. I have often wanted to take over a club like TEW or something like that but I could never have the time with building F/Cs and taking care of the wife and kids is alot already. Good luck in your indevers. I hope things work out. See ya at the track. Just my $.02

 

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