Hemi Rockers--BAE heads

Even with the newer rockers that have the forced oiling, do the pushrods still have to be buttered up at the beginning of the day?

 

I have the forced oiler rockers and adjusters. I have never "buttered" my adjusters/push rod cups. I squirt them with motor oil for the initial oiling at first start-up. Never an issue. I can raise an adjuster at any time and there is oil still in the cup. Just my experience.

 

Can I modify a set to work like that?

For example; could I get a set of BAE rockers and have them modified? I am assuming you had to get different shafts to tighten the clearance?

I don't have the coin to go buy new Mantons, but I would like to start out with something that is somewhat current. I just think to have to deal with burnt parts because they are not getting enough oil is absurd.

 

I agree, lack of anything not oiling IS absurd when you have a good oil pump and it is putting out tons of oil. It is a matter of directing that oil to where is is needed. In my case, I have Stage V rockers with forced oiling, the oiling adjusters with the groove and the oil hole, standard KB HD shafts, on standard AJ stands. I removed the oil restricter in the top of the block to increase oil flow to the stands. Never an oiling problem. I am sure there are many racers who have oiling problems but I am not one of them. I don't know if a rocker or adjuster could be modified to act like a forced oiler or not. My motor has not been cranked over or started in 6 months or more and I will bet anyone $100 if they raise an adjuster on my motor right now, that there is still oil in the push rod cup. Again, just my experiences.

 

Thank you for the help. So I can just buy separate parts and get what I need.
Are you using roller rockers on both the intake and Ex? Is that a requirement?

 

I don't like using the word "just" in any sentence, especially in high performance engines. I DO have roller rockers in both the intake and exhaust rockers. I will never use a rocker that is NOT a roller on the valve contact end. Maybe not a requirement but IS my personal preference. I have learned that forced oiling is THE way to go. Anything less than forced oiling is considered "splash" oiling. Not good enough in my book. But then again, I am not an expert NOR can I run a 3.60 1/8 mile so maybe those racers who can run those numbers can fill in the blanks.

 

Yah, that was probably overly simplified the way I said that.
Thanks for the info--much appreciated!

 

I know you probably already know this....... But I'll share it anyway. I've always replaced one quart of oil with a quart of Lucas heavy duty oil additive, valve train and springs stay tacky between races and rounds. In five years of running my MBR hemi I've only blued one pushrod, and it could of been just an anomaly.

 

According to Noel Manton that stabilizer isn't really doing anything . He recommends using a 0w prostock oil. Gets inside the roller tip and shafts for excellent lubrication. I run a separate line off front of my oil pump to feed the rocker gear. It see oil just as fast as the First main bearing does.

 

"0w prostock oil"
Are you saying put 1 quart of this in the engine also?
Or are you saying to prelube with it?

 

I've owned a Hemi deal for 4 years and never pre oiled in my life. The car sat for a month this summer and I fired it without thinking twice about pulling a valve cover and pre oiling. Warmed it up and pulled the cover to find not one blued pushrod or ugly adjuster. Psi oiling is the only way to build a Hemi anymore.

 

Don't know about that oil , he may be right , but all of my parts look like new after a lot of runs. I think I'll stick with what I've been doing. When I check lash first thing in the mornings at the track I always squirt a little 50/50 Lucas and 60 weight valvoline on the roller rocker tip and adjusters and let it run down. No need to change to fix a problem that doesn't exist........but MBR motors are legendary for their lack of valve train problems. Rockers have been pressure fed for years.

 

Psi oiling = pressure fed rockers/adjusters