Dead spot in the throttle!

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  1. racecar1517

    racecar1517 Member

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    The motor hesitates the moment I hit the throttle for the burn out. After that no problems. It also shows on the data recorder that the fuel pump pressure goes to 0 when the motor comes up on the two step. My guess it would show the same thing for the burn out but it is not captured by the recorder. Very new car, very fat, still working on getting the fuel/egts/everything else into a happy place.
    Any ideas?
    Thanks ITA!
     
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  2. Randy G.

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    Are you monitoring fuel pressure?
     
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  3. racecar1517

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    Yes. The recording does not go back far enough to show the hit for the burnout but it does show the when it go onto the two step.
     
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  4. aj481x

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    Try richening the idle.
     
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  5. Mike Canter

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    I agree and that is the first thing to try. With the motor at idle and warm sharply crack the throttle at the barrel valve and see if there is hesitation. If so make the idle richer until the hesitation goes away when snapping the throttle off idle.
     
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  6. jody stroud

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    You did use a wire reinforced hose to connect the hard line to the bottom of the fuel pump? It will suck a plain hose shut.
     
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  7. Outlaw68

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    fuel psi going to ZERO its not a BV problem, check the line from pump to tank for seal. And like Jody said, be sure it has the wire in it. I am gonna bet its sucking air, or sucking shut, or its the tank itself creating a vortex at the pick up
     
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  8. Mike Canter

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    If the engine is hesitating and dropping down in rpm then the pump pressure will also drop also.
     
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  9. Outlaw68

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    I would think the engine would have to quit to read zero, mine holds pressure on the sensor momentarily after shut off on the log. Pump turns at 50% of the crank rpm so even at 500 rpm its spinning 250 rpm , where as an Air pocket or sucked shut intake hose would briefly spike down, until the engine lost rpm and the pump recovered. Reading Zero on the log. If it were holding some psi, I would for sure agree with the BV diagnostic. But he said the only time it hesitates is on the burnout and after that its fine, but that it does go to ZERO on the data log briefly when on the two step, but he didnt say it tried to lay over.
     
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  10. Mike Canter

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    I would think if sucking air or the hose collapsing it would show up more when going down the track.
     
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  11. SoDak

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    We set the barrel valve leak down with gages as a starting point, then we start the engine and crack the throttle, if it hesitates we richen the BV 1 "flat" at a time until the hesitation goes away.
     
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  12. racecar1517

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    The fuel line is the thick style that is methanol approved and has the wire reinforcement. I will check the clamps to make sure that it is not leaking air. As the tank goes this is an older McKinney funny car and I can not see the bottom of the tank too many baffles.

    If I were able to collect the fuel pressure at the start of the burnout I wonder if it drops there too. I would guess that there is a hesitation/dead spot when it goes on the two step, but the car is not moving and the pedal is all the way down/open so its not as noticeable.

    Thanks
     
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  13. Mike Canter

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    What model data logger do you have? Is it triggered to record based on rpm or does a crew member or driver manually trigger it?
     
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  14. racecar1517

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    It's an RPM. It can be triggered manually but currently it is armed by the crew after the burnout and is triggered by drive shaft movement.
     
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  15. Bob69

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    Check the idle return check valve is not jammed partially open.
     
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  16. Mike Canter

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    Can you set it for 120 seconds of recording and arm it right before the burnout. I like setting the up to trigger at 3500 and record for 120?sec and get both the burnout and run.
     
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  17. Bob Meyer

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    old gremlin

    Just asking..............on the barrel valve side of the injector, is the linkage in front of the throttle blade cross shaft or behind it ?





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    2015 Our 50th Anniversary
     
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  18. LeWhite

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    My bet is the spool is 180* out. The ramp closes then opens to the back side of the spool hole.
     
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