Brain Twister

Gene I had thought about your dual drive concept while reading this thread but didnt post because like Maynard I realized that the whipping of the crankshaft would negate any advantage possibly even shearing the camshaft because of harmonics. Probably what would be ideal would be to drive the camshaft from the center but for that you would have to increase the center bore spacings to accomodate such a drive and that wouldnt be legal. Another Idea would be to use the twin drive concept both front and rear but to section or halve the camshaft at the center to isolate it from harmonics. Maynard you also bring up the option of slide valves but you would need to support the chamber and provide a wide slot to operate that kind of valve. Wouldn't a ball valve be a better option? You would still have to move the weight of a slide out of the way of a port which would mean springs again but a ball valve simply has to rotate on an axis.

[ February 20, 2005, 04:47 PM: Message edited by: Woodchip ]

 

I dunno. We see rifle drilling in axles to lighten em up but they are made and heat treated to flex, twist, change form and come back to original.

I just dont know. It is an interesting concept.

 

The more we get in to the cam and trying to make more power, i`m starting to think we are getting away from the problem,So lets think about what goes on from the starting line to the 1/8 mile mark, the car leaves the line, front wheels are in the air possibly to 400 feet, air is going UNDER the car, now when the front tires touch down, the back tires already started to grow, so now the body is at more of an angel of attack, the more the tire grows the worst the angel,now i know from experience that the tire has to grow or the car won`t make it to the finnish line, unless you got 3.50 gears, then it won`t e/t with them gears, so the obvious thing to do is to have a body that will loose it`s angel of attack as it goes down the track ( just enough to make it work for you instead of against you) now i don`t know if this is legal, like every thing else with nhra, if they didn`t think of it its no good. Gene Terenzio Sr.

 

Yes Woodchip, a ball could work out better. My slide valve wouldn't utilize springs, rather, it would have powered opening and closing on hydralics or electro magnetic actuators. I believe once you got rid of the shafts, rockers, springs, stands and push rods and were using smaller ports as a result of more efficent ports, you'd have alot of area to put these things.

 

Yeah Gene, I think to make more power from the cam alone, you'd have to have the grinder reindex the profile according to some known amount brought about by testing. In other words, If 1 and 2 were close to the intended valve event and 3 and 4 were a little retarded. you could assume that cylinders 5 and 6 would be impacted a little more then 3 and 4 and 7 and 8 would be worse then 5 and 6. So, to test for this, you'd simply have to figure out the amount of compounded deflection from 9000 to 10,000 rpm and have the grinder adjust each lobe profile accordingly. I wonder if thats what Greg Anderson is on to. lol

 

THINK ABOUT THIS, YOU SPEND 3.5 SEOCNDS REACHING THE 1/8 MILE AND 1.5 SECONDS IN THE LAST 1/8. THATS WHY THE 60' TIME IS IMPORTANT..........

 

Can you say "Speed is indicator of HP".

 

I know that h/p = mph, but nhra says we cant make any more h/p, no boost no head work ( were 90 % of the h/p comes from), so the only other thing we can do, ( and i`m not sure if its even legal) is to fix the body so its more aero, When a funny car backs up you see the tail lights flip up, that's from the tires blowing them opened so when the car is going down the track the tires are blowing agents the tin and back half of the car trying to lift the body up, so you got two forces fighting each other, one trying to lift the body the other trying to push it down, how do we make them work together? maybe a fender or tub so the tire wind is pushing the car foward or some type of reliefe in the back of the car above the tire to relivee the pressure. Gene Terenzio Sr.

 

MIKE TKACH, I sent you my # and e-mail address ,did you get it? Gene Terenzio Sr. ====== MIKE CANTER, you get one of them turbo pro mods to put a crowerglide in there car and send me the (clutch)hat, and let me wave my magic wand over it then watch out Gene Terenzio Sr.

[ February 22, 2005, 02:58 PM: Message edited by: ttutubono ]

 

Ya, Mike we wont talk about it ,but I can tell you this, A Crowerglide out of the box won`t work. Gene Terenzio Sr.

[ February 22, 2005, 04:44 PM: Message edited by: ttutubono ]