plug wires

does it make a diff. on a supermag4 to run solid wires or do the other ones work just as good?

 

been told buy Don Zig if you run anything but solid core it will eat the wires up...but been told buy randy at RPM you sould run suppresion wires..so is this a 50/50 thing???I hope some racers chime in on this I wanna also know the answer..dave

 

We ran the big Taylor thundervolt wires but changed them when we thought they may have been causing grief with our ETC box. then someone suggested running the good MSD wires as they are apparently used with their mags without issues so it only made sense to me to try those, still had issues with the ETC box but no other issues with either sets of wires was just told to make sure whatever we were 50 ohms or less per foot, we run a super mag iv at 5.8 amps. that's my story for what its worth.

 

Spud says solid wires, so we run solid wires!

 

If you have any data logger on the car then solid cores are definitely out. Seems to me that yes, the solid cores are the "best" because they have virtually no resistance BUT to be able to have a mag AND a logger then spirals are the only option. As was stated above , get wires that have the lowest OHM's per foot and change them often. IMO

Personally I'm going to try the Moroso Ultra 40's

 

I struggled with the data logger even with resistance wires, but it might not have been the wires fault, not sure yet, still working on it.

Zig Magnetos say if you seen there test stand and the difference between the 2 wires you wouldn't run anything but solid core.

The dyno guy made us put on resistence wires as soon as he seen our solid core wires (he runs Racepak). Our tuneup did not change with either wire.

Mallory told me to use 2 different wires, one type for the coil wire & one on the plug wires, but I can't remember which way it was now, I'll have to look back at notes.

 

Come to think of it, we ran solids on the car one year, and switched them over the winter to the MSD spirals. Next spring with the same tune up the car actually went a bit faster. Probably due to better air or what ever but the wires didn't hamper anything IMO.

 

I was running solid core last year on my sm4,we ran an 1/8 mile race at bunkerhill when the track announcer came over to my trailer.He asked me if there was a problem with my plug wires,because when we fired the car and brought it around to stage,my car would knock out the track pa system until we got about 300ft out. We now run MSD bulk wire {cut to fit} car runs better and doesnt piss off announcers!!!!!!!DAVE

 

This makes me think:

would solids effect the car in the other lane if it was using delay/electronics box???

more for the DYO bracket blown cars in AUST.

 

Mr Gasket told me "You need stainless core wires to the plugs but can use an 18" carbon core wire from the transformer back to the magneto top. This will cut the RF noise down about 80%."

Is "stainless core" solid core?

Is "carbon core" a resistence wire, like MSD?

 

I'm curious, SkAuto, what you did to sort out the ETC box trouble? Or for that matter, what anyone has done with an ETC box when it has interference trouble? I had a lot of trouble and never could get it working (shielded, grounded, wrapped in lead..just about every wire on the car)

ETC told me to get resistor wires but even they he seemed unsure if even that would do the trick. Spud recommends and sells the ETC box,and I believe he told me that spiral wires were OK. Anyone?

 

reply to SoDaks questions

carbon core is NOT MSD spiral wires and I would be suprised if it would live for long, it will probably burn up in no time with serious energy going through it. SS can be either spiral or straight, you would need spiral to reduce radiation issues. Personally I think MSD are the industry leaders and I would go with their recommendations. I have run their spiral wires for many years with no issues (MSD-10+). I am lucky in that I have a steel bodied car and can locate the elactronics inside - isolated by a steel firewall.

 

Firecore50
3X thicker core than the Moroso Ultra40. Copper Nickel Alloy spiral core with impregnated Kevlar. The only wire in the industry to do that. Schumacher as well as the Alanabi cars 3 Pro Stocks 4 Pro Stock bikes and over 50 Promods. They wouldn't be PAYING to run them if they didn't work.

I didn't mean to sound like a commercial but they are that good.

 

Never did sort out ETC box trouble i removed it as it caused me nothing but grief with limiter coming in whenever it felt like it, I tried everything from its own dedicated power supply in a grounded box , relocating , different plug wires, everything i was told to try i tried and it kept letting me down, got rid of it and now run a C02 throttle stop for launch and no rev limiter at all.

 

Thanks for the reply Sk, about the ETC box ...and crap....I've done most of that stuff as well. What was the attitude of the manufacturer? Those things must work for some guys, right? Did you try the exact wires they recommend? Did you ever send it back for test?

Hate to throw something brand new in the trash.

 

I am not disagreeing with you as these sound like a really good choice if you are running something other then a Mallory Super Mag, but I don't beleive any of the examples listed are running Mallory Super Mag IVs and that was the original question.

 

Manufacturer was good to talk to and it was his advice i took on trying the steps to make it work, no i haven't sent it back i just gave up on it and went racing instead. may try it again over the off season. And i am running the super mag iv

 

Your correct... Most likely most of those listed are not points type mag. But if you have any type of data acquisition the solid core is not an option. We run a super mag V and ran the MSD wires the last 4 seasons and started this year with them. We switched to the Firecore50 our second event into this year. For us we saw no difference in performance or any changes in EGTs. But we are kind of soft and only run 5.90s and 6.0s with a 20 gallon 6.71 configuration.