Goodyear tires

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  1. ch3no2

    ch3no2 New Member

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    I heard a while back that goodyear was working on an A-fuel tire, but I haven't heard anything in a while. I know supplies are low on the 1230 model and the last I knew they weren't making them anymore. The 1486 is ok but not as good as the 1230. I also heard Jeff Wilson is going to try Mickey Thompson's on his A-fueler. I would like to see how many runs he gets on a set. The Hoosiers come apart after 4 or 5 runs.

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  2. Traveler

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    Just wanted to know which tire size and compound Hoosier you used that came apart? And which car they were ran on and where? Thanks
     
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  3. ch3no2

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    I don't recall what the model # was on the hoosiers that came apart, but they were the same tire that all the blown guys were running about 3 years ago. They were on Bill Reichert's car and they shredded after 4 runs. They actually threw huge chunks of rubber off at the top end and ripped a hole in the wing.
    I found out that goodyear has completed a new tire that was developed specificaly for a-fuel cars, but I don't know if anyone has tested them yet, and I guess they are still making the 1230 model as well.
     
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  4. Traveler

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    Thanks for answering. I just want to let people know that the tire tire size and compound that he was running at that time was the old 34.5 C06 compound. Hoosier thought that the dragsters put more downforce on the rear tires and the C06 wouldn't take the extra heat. And that was the reason that Hoosier developed the C4000 tire for the dragsters. Which is a tire that build less heat. But they also had this problem on funny cars and blown dragsters at mainly two tracks, Joliet and Las Vegas. And with the help of GoodYear they have decided that is was not the tire that is causing the problem but something to do with track prep. It was at Vegas when Hoosier was replacing blistered tires that the GoodYear rep's told them that they were crazy for doing that because their tires did the same thing at these tracks. I just wanted to shed some light on this for the people that don't really know what was going on and that read what you posted would assume Hoosier had a bad product. Also, one final note.. Bill won the Division 3 race at Indy on Hoosiers that same year and as far as I know had no problems at IRP.
     
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  5. ch3no2

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    Traveler, I don't mean to say that hoosier had or has a bad product. I was talking specifically about A- fuel cars only. The hoosiers on Bills a-fuel car came apart after 4 runs. After the 3rd run they looked fine, but the next run they shredded. They actually worked better than the goodyears but were not safe. They couldn't hold up to the half track acceleration that a-fuel cars produce. That's why the only tire you will see on an a-fueler is a goodyear. Also, even the blown cars only get 14 runs or so on hoosiers. The goodyears are good for at least 20 on Bill's car. I know hoosier has a new tire, I would love to see it work on the a-fuelers but I would rather someone else try it first. I've always thought the goodyear guys were too cocky anyway!
     
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  6. Scott Nelson

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    ch3no2,

    I saw Bill had the Hoosiers on at Reading, way back in 2001, and was wondering if he changed rearend gears for the shorter tire? If not, then I could see that the theoretical gear ratio that the car was seeing would be shorter than with the taller Goodyear tires, making them more likely to spin/slip, and have problems.

    On another note, how about those Trojan's! (not a Trojan fan, but a fan of the Pac Ten)
     
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  7. Will Hanna

    Will Hanna We put the 'inside' in Top Alcohol
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    we tried the hoosier 36" tire on rudy's car. it shook hard both runs, but considering our performance at the time, it was hard to blame the tire exclusively. it was my last race with the team, but i believe the shake was caused by not being aggressive enough for as hard as the hoosiers bite. it also could be running a hoosier on a beadlock rim. not too many people have been successful in that endeavor. after two runs, rudy scrapped the hoosier project. hard to say if changes could have been made to accomodate the tire's bite characteristics. gunderson tried the tire in houston and drove through the clutch. personally, i think the tire shows promise.

    as far as the c06 c2000 compound tire, thats all we run on jason's car, and knock on wood, have never had the blistering problem. i did see a number of cars have that problem at the end of 2001, but it seems hoosier found the problem. the c4000 tire seems not to work as good as the c2000.
     
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  8. Traveler

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    I think it's hard to count out the C4000 tire due to the fact that two fast dragsters,Marty Thacker and David Wells both run that tire and seem to be doing pretty good with it. And both of them are on the tubeless liner tire and wheel combo now also.

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  9. ch3no2

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    With all said I believe the goodyears are the best available tire for a-fuel cars. Hence, they're the only tires you see on them. If the hoosiers were a better deal then you would see some on an a-fueler, but you don't, so there you go! [​IMG]
     
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  10. tjenna

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    More tire options the better.

    Hopefully MT's work and Hoosier and GY continue to have a good product for the alcohol cars.

    Better than just one option as in the past.
     
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