IHRA dumped by Live Nation ?

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  1. mike kirk

    mike kirk New Member

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    The rumor mill is anticipating an announcement on Tuesday by Live nation that there assets in the IHRA are going to be for sale.

    Could this be a good thing for the IHRA?. I thought Live Nation was going to carry the I after the TORCO deal went south

    My opinion is if Bruton Smith gets a hold of the IHRA it will go to a hole new level

    What do you guys think, I know its only a rumor but what if it is true.
     
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  2. AFC357

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    Someone needs to take charge and move IHRA forward, feels like we have been on a "backwards slide" for the last couple of years??? Can't wait to hear cuz I really like racing with the IHRA!:D
     
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  3. Darren Smith

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    I doubt the IHRA will go anywhere, someone will step up to fill the void. It's too much of a Viable alternative to too many racers for it to go away anytime soon.;)
     
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  4. konrodz

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    Lets Wait and See......

    Well Tim, if Mr. Smith purchases the IHRA he will take it to the highest possible level that there is. The man is a genius when it come to business.The man has the midas touch and can make things happen. Look at the way he put Z-Max together. Mr.Smith said he would have it ready by September 13-14 and it was done 3 week before that forecast date. This man can make it happen, and trust me that ALL of the people who run the IHRA presently are the right people to continue running the show. They just someone like Mr.Smith to help fund the show. Lets wait and see.
     
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  5. Will Hanna

    Will Hanna We put the 'inside' in Top Alcohol
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    leverage

    Smith buying the IHRA would be the leverage he would need to purchase NHRA on his terms. If he were to buy IHRA and move his tracks to that series at the end of their contracts, it would seriously hurt the value of the NHRA to another potential buyer.

    An IHRA-NHRA merger under the SMI umbrella....that's a whole other discussion. The scenarios could get pretty crazy.

    With Live Nation's 51% stake and Bader's 25% stake for sale, SMI could completely control IHRA.

    Bristol, Carolina, LV and Sears Point are all SMI tracks. If Bruton went IHRA (again), with his tracks, how many tracks would follow suit. How many of his current NASCAR tracks would have new dragstrips built for IHRA national events? Upgrade Fontana to a national event to have IHRA in NHRA's back yard. Texas Motor Speedway...

    Even if SMI doesn't buy IHRA, with it being for sale, this will certainly be a bargaining chip.

    Of course, this is all assuming the NHRA deal isn't done or going through as we speak....
     
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  6. AFC357

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    Yes to all the above. Don't get me wrong Spiro, the "PEOPLE" at IHRA are what makes it a GREAT place to race! Just need more $$$ behind them, and I won't even get that discussion started again!
     
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  7. john348

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    It would be really nice to see some money behind this group,
    maybe we could even get back a 16 car field again.
    What ever the outcome i just pray they do not let screw blowers into
    this class and screw it up like they did the other one.
    The people are what make IHRA, without a doubt!
     
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  8. fc196cc

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    Hey John348, Why do you think that allowing the screw cars is a bad thing? All the top hitters in IHRA and some of the other cars spent over $10,000 on the PSI Roots. You can get a brand new screw for less. I just think even though I dont run one yet, that the screw is a much more economical supercharger for what we do. Live Nation pulling out, who didn't see that coming, they are not going to foot the bill to make no return. Torco is the only reason IHRA looks okay right now. Evan added the money needed to make the show work, he brought back the fuel cars, and gave big money to the pro stock and pro mods. Live nation can not handle the amount of money that torco was just throwing at the sport. Bruton will not buy IHRA, have you not noticed that he is putting a NHRA track near all the IHRA tracks, he who has the nicer facility gets all the business.
    Matt
     
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  9. Will Hanna

    Will Hanna We put the 'inside' in Top Alcohol
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    screw vs. roots

    John,

    Please don't take this as a smart ass question, but what makes the roots better or cheaper than the screw, in your opinion? The latest K-11 with mods is about $12k out the door, the new M2 is $16,500 once you put the new injector on it, the PSI roots is close to $10k or more. There's no guarantee that next month so and so gets a K-15 and runs mid .60's, so now you gotta have that blower and drop another $15k+.

    Which I know there are new trick of the week screw blowers too, don't get me wrong there.

    I just don't see where a combo making as much if not more boost than a screw FC with a much hotter intake charge is going to be cheaper to operate than a screw car. I'm sure the guys at the top are turning the same rpm in IHRA as they are NHRA.

    I'm just curious to see what makes the roots better.

    If you're stating it from the position that it's the status quo and you're not looking to change, I understand that, but I'm just curious from a comparative standpoint.

    And now I'll turn it over to my colleauge Randy Goodwin back in the booth for his commentary on roots vs. screw....(he always weighs in on this one...:D)
     
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  10. Cricket

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    IHRA Website

    :confused:

    I was just looking at the IHRA website and the Live Nation advertising that was there before has been taken off. I did a search for Live Nation on the site and came up with nothing.

    I wonder if IHRA has been sold?

    Maureen
     
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  11. aj481x

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    http://www.ihra.com/tou.html#ctm Live Nation seems to still be in charge. The news conference today was to announce new music distribution in South America.
     
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  12. alkyman

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    As a Fan I must be missing something

    How can you say the guys running IHRA are doing a great job? How long have you raced IHRA? The two headed monster brought us Mansfield and E-Max., 8 Car Alcohol fields, Pro Stock boycott, higher entry fees and ticket prices, event cancellations a schedule that makes no sense at all like Tulsa in August?? The people in Oklahoma want to get their asses out of there in August because it is a hundred + degrees!!!!!!!!! Have you watched the "Night of Fire" lately?? Anybody see the fireworks at Norwalk?? How about 4 hours to run 16 fuel cars? I can't tell you how much my wife and I enjoyed watching those idiots on the motorcycles go back and forth for 4 hours. I remember 30 Alcohol Cars, 50 Pro Mods, 30 Pro Stockers and Nitro Harley. No Aaron it is not entertaining to watch the track crew clean up the track or watch 1/8 mile racing. IHRA is going the way of NASCAR which is boring as hell. I don't go to the races to be entertained I go to get the thrill of competition and smell of rubber. If I want to be entertained I'll go to a Circus or Concert.
     
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  13. john348

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    OK
    i will not disagree that the screw does not make more power, 500 hp comes to mind. As far as i know no other class uses a screw, and yes being old school i just like the idea of a blown car using a roots blower over a screw compressor. You talk about the mods being done, makes me think back over the years of what drag racing was about, innovating to make it go faster
    not trying to reinvent the wheel

    remember this is just my opinion on roots, apparently a few others share my thoughts or there would NOT be an IHRA AFC class
    and no i did not think of it as a smart ass question
    hopefully you will respect my thoughts on a roots as i do yours on a screw
     
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  14. Dave Germain

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    screw vs roots

    I haven't had a Roots type blower in years but as I recall they need to be restripped every few runs? And the guys who used to run them competitively had to have more than one to keep them restripped often enough? I have one PSI-D. I don't touch it but only once every 5 years for recerting. One scew blower is cheaper than two or three roots blowers and a whole lot less work. Dave Germain
     
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  15. AFC357

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    I'm told by MANY my new PSI can go 20 to 30 runs before stripping??!! Havn'r run it that much yet, but have heard it from MANY. As far as my good ole K-11, yes would strip EVERY race and yes that does cost time and $$. You dont "need" to strip it, it still "runs" but to stay at the top you gotta work. In my Pro Outlaw days we carried 2 blowers, one for qualifying and one for the race. I agree with John, maybe were "old school" or maybe we don't want to sell all our roots stuff we have LOTS of $$ in (Ive got a couple 10Kplus blowers) maybe we want to be "different" than NHRA??:rolleyes:
     
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  16. Dave Germain

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    Let me play devil's advocate here- Before I bought my screw blower I wrote letters to the NHRA encouraging them to outlaw screw blowers. There was a time when I thought of the Top Alcohol classes like AAA baseball. One step from the bigs, same equipment, same rules. And there was a time long ago that many alcohol racers used hand-me down fuel parts, some still do. But not the blowers.
    For some odd reason this thread has taken a detour from it's original idea. IHRA survival. I have always thought competition was good. The more competition between sanctioning bodies the better the racer will get treated. If the IHRA fails, it will allow any other sanctioning body to treat the racers however they want to. And as any good plumber knows the 'stuff' runs downhill and with the IHRA's current problems I hear somebody's hands on the flush handle. Dave Germain
     
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  17. Les Mellows

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    There will be an announcement soon , and the Motorsports assets have been available to interested parties since Live Nation got them . Seems strange every time something happens thats good, Bruton' name pops up . Why can't we put Hefner out there for the real dreamers to get a hold of ...... thats the guy we need ! he knows how to sell magazines and entertainment events and he's had near every young and old BLOWER we ever wanted and he stripped them daily !!
    Change can (should) be a good thing .
     
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    Les, thats some funny s#it, I didn't know you were a comedian. you should go to hollywood , the walk will do you good :D:D
     
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