Ford Boss 500

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  1. fathead

    fathead New Member

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    Anyone see the "new" Ford Boss 500 nitro motor?You can't see the cylinder heads real well but it still looks like a Chrysler based engine to me.After all these years,the Ford,Pontiac and Chevrolet teams are still using the design Chrsler had back in 1964(with some small changes).
     
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    what happened to the moratorium on engine development in the fuel classes?
     
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  4. fathead

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    Ford???

    Thats no Ford dist drive location I've ever seen,nor has there been a Ford motor with a oil pump hangin' off the lower drivers side front corner of the motor!!(the old side oiler was only cooler lines I believe)!I'm not against Fords,but it would be great to see a Ford car with a Ford motor,Chevy body with a chevy motor and a mopar body with a Mopar engine.
     
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  6. DQUES

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    It is based off of the current design fuel hemi engines made by BAE and the AJ TFX . The Force guys put their own design into certain pieces but stayed within the current dimensions allowed by NHRA .
     
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    just an observation

    Interesting how a copywright on the name "Hemi" seems to mean a hemispherical head can only be made in the after market and called Hemi? and I guess "Hemi" means you own the distributor location as well (I love the way they miss the blower)? The big Three have always followed suit like a flock of sheep and they always will. I think its awesome that Ford has stepped up and backed team Force with this engine its about time that they did, after all of the championships that team has won. The Boss 429 did well during its run in Pro Stock and I hope that the Boss 500 is a competitve package as well. Now just try and buy one for the same money as the Chrysler stuff, like that will ever happen, if your lucky maybe twice the cost or more. If the engineering staff will listen to Austin Coil that thing will haul ass.:) I think it would be cool if you had to run the same make engine as the car body, I have a Ford BB in my 23 T, glad its not a Fiat. But seriously hot rodding does not need any more rules like that.
     
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  8. Mike Canter

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    Our oil pump on our Boss 429 Hemi comes off the front on the drivers side just like that but our mag is on the drivers side. It is interesting that they are allowing this "new" design Ford motor but stopped the 5" bore spacing Boss 429 Hemi that Carrol Carter tried to bring into NHRA. Regardless is is good to see some variety in TF. Maybe a TAFC somewhere in the future.
     
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  9. T.A.D. 776

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    Not a Ford

    A couple of Ford logos and some blue paint do not make it a Ford.
    This is not a Ford based engine. There is nothing new here just hype.
     
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    Apparently you didn't get the memo............it has a totally redesigned oil pan bolt pattern..........Ford engineering at its' finest............ :D
     
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    I would love to be able to buy that injector
    is it for sale by anyone for a roots
     
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  12. Mike Canter

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    That injector is designed by an aerodynamic engineer at the same place where I work. and is the same as the one that Eric Medlen was using. We have had some interesting discussions about it. There is no way we could afford it because of the developement cost (lol).
     
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  13. 23/cobrajet/tee

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    design

    If you look in the NHRA rule book you will see the design criteria that Ford and and every one else must use to make a legal engine to run in FC and TF. I hope it hauls, team Force works hard at its craft and what ever they run will do well in competition. I personaly love the rivalry I am seeing and have seen at the drag strip.:D
     
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  14. Mike Canter

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    A few years ago NHRA was going to make a rule change for Fuel FCs that if you used a Chevy body you needed a Chevy motor and if you used a Ford body you would have to use a Ford motor etc. It was shot down because there was only one "brand" of motor being used and Force is sponsored by Ford so it wouldn't work. Lets wait and see what NHRA does now.
     
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  15. Alkyride

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    Correct me if I am wrong but didn't Bucky Austin try to bring a "Ford" design engine into TAFC? I thought I heard something about that being shut down by NHRA.

    Gary Sylvester
     
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  16. Kenneth S

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    You obviously havent looked at the new age ford engines, starting in 1980 with the 90deg 3.8 V-6, and the introduction of the ford V-8 modular engines the oil pump hangs out the lower drivers side front corner of the engine, the 80 ford 3.8 V-6 also had the distributor sticking out on the passender side front of the engine driving the oil pump (just like the hemi does), eventhough the current ford V-6 no longer has a distributor the front cover still has a provsion for a distributor, but now it has a dummy shaft driving the oil pump and a camshaft position sensor for the computer.
     
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  17. Kenneth S

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    The NHRA shot the Austin Ford hemi down because Austin used the wider by .200" ford bore spacing, also at the same time the NHRA limited the engine blocks to the current hemi bore spacing.
     
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  18. fathead

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    I know all about the later v6 stuff,I work at a Ford dealer as a tech!I was refering to the muscle car era "Boss" engines,that in no way,shape or form look like this "Boss 500" fuel motor.I run a BAE motor in a pro street,so I also know what they look like!
     
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  19. Kenneth S

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    The NHRA moratorium on fuel engine development meant that they couldn't change the dimensions of the block (bore spacing and such) to keep it NHRA legal, it's mainly a more internally beefed up block than the current KB, BAE, and other blocks are, although they could have made the valve covers look more like the old Boss 429 valve covers.
     
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