Engines

Ok i have some more questions...What size and brand engines do you guys run? Also cylinder heads? One more question what type or kind of cam shaft? also do you have to get a custom grind? thanks Tommy

 

We run a blown alcohol dragster, and we run between 450 to 464 cubic inches. Personally we prefer TFX forged blocks, and Total Flow heads. Your head builder should be alot of help on a cam grind. I use Crane Cams, and am very satisfied with their service.
Good luck,
Marty

 

The reason im asking this is I want to purchase a block and get started building my engine so i can get my project going. and out of curosity how long does say mckinney take to build a chassis onc you have ordered it?

 

hey medic... just a suggestion... buy a turn key car man. i know i know everyone wants new #### and to try all these new ideas and ####... but trust me man the $$$ for new stuff will blow your mind. i'm a fire/medic and i know most guys like us work 2 or 3 jobs if they want to do this stuff. starting from scratch can be like being dropped in the middle of an unknown jungle if you take off in the wrong direction and ouch that hurt$$
look around there are some good running hotrods for sale. don't buy junk or someone elses 'problem' (<--that's a relative term haha) and in the mean time find a good running guy to tag along with and do grunt work to learn, learn, learn.... daniel-son
i built a car from scratch about the only way i know of that a fire guy can afford to. i collected parts for 2 years, traveled all over the country to find ever fast fuel altered i could find, and built a jr dragster.... (best training in the world!) then i started on my fueler in my basement.
AFTER 2 years of grinding tubes and welding i took it apart and carried it out my 30-inch wide basement door and put it back together in the garage.
so unless you have a long basement and lots of time to kill... start shopping.
BTW... Cody Barklage set the world record for JR's in my little starter project. One off McGee motor, 2 stages of fogged nitrous, front/rear suspension and lots of carbon fiber
Happy hunting, Sean
www.metalmafiaracing.com

 

Wasn't cody running nitro/nitrous in that JR. I know it went 6.0 to the 1/8th at a little over 100.

 

Well I would like to get a complete dragster minus the engine, cause at least I know what I got for an engine. But ya as for the car hopefully ill find me a complete car. Thanks again Tommy

 

Medic,
You may already know of the site, but check out:

www.Racingjunk.com

I lurked there for several months and wound up with the car in my avi. There are some good deals on there, you just have to be patient.

 

yeah early on Cody had several motors for it. one of them was a pretty heavy nitro loaded motor til it went boom. kinda funny seeing a jr pop a motor and it actually blows up and blows the side cover/crankcase off the damn thing! it was a spectacular event. but if i remember right the combo that ran the best had two fogged nitrous stages and incredibly big bore/super light pistons. they were virtually disposable... after so a handful of juiced runs they started to mushroom and the rings pulled off the cyl wall and you just put a new one in. it was spooky how fast that little jr took off

 

any of you guys run bbc's or does anyone at all?

 

i run one but it's probably not a good comparison for what you're doin. we run a blown nitro bbc on about 90% fuel. we're still using a chevy truck block but will probably have a merlin in it over the winter. i have seen the cn blocks (chuck Nuytten (sp?)) which are incredible and i know a lot of guys also run kb's and new century blocks. i would guess if your looking for a competitive bad or a/fd you'll be going hemi

 

Well im not lookng to be competitive im just looking to builsd a engine that will run in the 6's. can a blown bbc do that on alcohol?

 

in a dragster... hell ya. that won't be a problem. you probably won't find a ton of bbc supporters on here but only because most guys on here are running the hemi stuff. but to a poor guy like me... the chevy deal has been good to me. been told many times i'm making a mistake with the chevy deal but i've got quite a few runs at 90% fuel and the only things that i've had to fix have been my own fault. some day i'll get some money and buy a high dollar block... like a merlin haha... till then i'll stick to my dump truck motor

but if your lookin to knock off some high/mid 6's learn to tune an alcohol deal and have fun... i wouldn't be afraid of the chevy deal at all. and it doesn't take high dollar parts to do it at all. with the exception of the rods/pistons (and fuel system related parts of course) pretty much everything in my motor could be found in a jegs catalog and in stock. simple, relatively cheap, and easy to find

 

A good safe combo to run a BBC on alky would be a 454-468 (4" stroke) w/ ~11-1 compression (convert the block to 1/2" head studs). I am not sure what blower intakes are avaiable, but a good hi-rise makes a good .10th of a second over a cragar. Like altered boy said, most mistakes are self- inflicted (that rod doesn't care if the block is iron or aluminum when it exits). Don't feel alone altered boy, I was told 30 years ago I was making a mistake using a Chevy.

 

i ran a blown big block chevy 468 cuin 472 and a 514 from stock k modle blocks and and 514 was a cast iron pro stock block and it was the only one that let go and it was old when i got it i ran it for 3 years before it pushed the crank out on the ground until then it never let me down the other two blocks are running blown motors with the guys i sold them to and that was at least 10 years ago and i ran the motors 47% over with dart 360 heads straight from indy cylinder head the best time i ever got was 4.03 in the 1/8 mile and 6.66 in the 1/4 mile at us 41 with a crower glide and a 3speed lenco i wouldnt be scared to run another blown chevy if i still raced those kind of cars good luck cheep horse power for outlaw quick 8 are for jegs quick 32

 

Big Chevy's

Hey altered boy, Not to long ago I started putting together a motor to break Rob Atchison's world record for the fastest chevy powered funny car on alky, since I am a die hard Chevy freak I built a monster. It was an Arias new century motor which is now New Century Performance w/ rare and really trick Bac man billet heads, rare matching magnesium intake, and a rarer yet RCD billet magnesium one piece gear drive, dual mag drive, fuel pump ext, crank support assy. After looking for spare parts for it and seeing the prices I traded it for enough parts to build 1 complete hemi of the same cid and 2 more short blocks plus some spares. The Chevy's can still run good ask Brenden Murry (5.87 world record on nitro). The problem is that they get real expensive if you try to run past the mid 6's or so. For what used cast chevy heads are going for you can get used billet heads for a hemi for, Billet cranks for a chevy are near imposible to find in the right stroke and setup, for the hemi they are easy to come by for half of what a new one would cost. I can honestly say that with good shopping I have a perfect 526 cid KB stg 10 block, Billet crank, new rods, tons of spare pistons, rings, pins, and buttons, New cam, two sets of BAE fathead 4 heads w/ the mag intake, mag covers, and the valvetrain w/ spares for less then $10,000 man to pan, I had more than that in the Chevy even with very few spares and my good shopping skills.

Still if you want to run a BBC The guys at New century performance are awesome guys, I have worked on Brenden's car with them at the race at indy, these guys are hands on and test there products, they are very knowledgable and have helped me out a lot, If you want to go this route I suggest calling 2 people, Brenden Murry (Tons of BBC parts for sale and has lots of knowledge) and New Century performance and don't be afraid to ask ?'s thats the best way to learn. At new century ask to speak to Lowell and tell him Trevor Sherwood sent you.

www.newcenturyperformance.com Lowell @ 618-466-6383
www.racecarparts.com Brenden @ 408-266-3324

Best wishes to you and if there is anything I can do to help or some parts you ever need help finding please drop me an e-mail at Soldierboy0098@yahoo.com I'll do my best to help you find them.

Sincerely,
Trevor Sherwood
317-757-6929

 

to the medic not the altered boy Sorry

to the medic not the altered boy Sorry

-Trev

 

So how fast did you get your chevy engine to run ? , Robs run in the 5.60's in IHRA trim before . Has a bac-man headed af/c ever run in the 5's ? .

 

To medi...

We run low 6's in a low budget altered with a blown chevy on alcohol. My buddy Neil Parker has been 5.90's with what was at the time a legal IHRA Pro Outlaw altered and nearly the same weight as a funnycar and way less boost. So 5's are not out of the question but starting from scratch you will save TONS of money by buying hemi parts. Used hemi parts are EVERYWHERE!!!! Just be careful of what you are buying. I only went chevy because that was what parts I had already. I just sold my BAC-MAN heads to a tractor pull guy. If you need chevy parts... drop me some mail. I might be able to help you out.

-Doug Nordberg
Young Guns Racing Altered