Meziere Block starter with 36v

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  1. NITRO MAS

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    Has anyone used 36v with the Mezier starter? Just wondering if it will handle the extra voltage or burn up. At $500 a piece I sure would hate to melt it down.

    James
     
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    Won't 24v do the job?
     
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  3. NITRO MAS

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    I was just thinking that 36v would spin it faster. I am running a bbc on 60% nitro and am just looking to find the best way to start it. I do start on the primer tank with alcohol but my thinking was the faster I spin the faster it starts but then again I dont want to have to worry about losing a starter when I get to the line.
     
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  4. aj481x

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    I do know that 24v works great on blown P/M with 44 mag. Remember that all system should have an inline heavy duty solenoid and the starter solenoid hot wired.
     
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    I do not have a relay. I have a small on board battery 12v that is for the shifter and tach and also powers the button for the starter solenoid. The main power for the starter is fed from a plug in 24v source and removed once started.
     
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  6. aj481x

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    Sent a P/M
     
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    AJ481X

    I am running 24v straight to starter and 12v on the solenoid as well. Seems to work fine. Can you explain why you feel that an extra solenoid needs to be in the system? My setup is new so I want to know if I am doing something wrong

    Cheers Pete
     
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  8. aj481x

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    The extra solenoid, installed next to the battery, makes the whole system "cold", no chance for shorts, starter to engage, etc. Often the contacts in the starter solenoid stick, this way the starter doesn't keep running. Also this lets you hotwire the starter and the solenoid will arc less on 24v.
     
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    Ok... When you say "hot wire" the starter solenoid do you mean straight from the 24V main battery lead to the starter solenoid? If yes I am assuming the the starter solenoid does not mind seeing 24v. Is a 100 amp remote relay/solenoid adequate?

    Cheers Pete
     
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    36v

    We run a GPE start with 36 volts and no probs YET
     
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  11. aj481x

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    Yes on 24 to solenoid. 100 amp might sound a little low, but not sure. Just need to be heavy duty.
     
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  12. Mike Canter

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    When running 24+ volts if you do not hot wire the starter solenoid and run a seperate heavy duty solenoid the attached starter solendoid will arc weld the contacts together and you will not be able to shut off the starter unless you disconnect the battery. Don't ask me how I know but it was a good way to prime the motor:D.
     
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  13. Dave Koehler

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    I'm with Mike, Had that happen. Thought it sounded odd once running but made the pass.
    No spare, came home. Took it apart and the armature was exploded. Took it to the local wizard. He calls back and says (throw in a mid eastern accent here) "I fix it. I know not what you did. Do not do it again. I do not fix a second time."

    Dave Koehler
    http://www.koehlerinjection.com
     
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  14. aj481x

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    and you will be surprised how fast you can move when you have to. :D
     
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  15. Mike Canter

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    It actually heated the power shutoff switch so hot that it caught on fire. The batteries were sealed in the trunk and could not get to them fast so with this starter soinning over and getting hot I undid the battery cable to it at the starter. It was actually pretty scary because it was probably pulling about 150 amps and was hot. Lucky I didn't short the wrench out to the frame.:p
     
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  16. NITRO MAS

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    I called Meziere and they are going to send me an email with how it should be set up and their recomendations. Why I hear back from them I will post here.
     
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    i had the contacts in the starter weld together in my garage at home..what a nightmare that was. i was alone ,the car was a door car with tons of cage tubing.i freaked out and was trying to get out banged my head and was so dizzy everything was moving around in my vison.by the time i got out and got the deck lid off the cables were burning.sitting next to the car was 8 full nitrous bottles 1 drum of fuel and 2 set of full torch bottles and 2 mother nitrous bottles. things happen fast with 24 volts and alot of amperage. contacts in the starter can weld shut from to low of voltage in the battery at start up also. ended up with a concusion from trying to jump out of the car. now im paranoid and never start a car in the garage at home.
     
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