What can i expect from a whipple ?

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  1. PROMOD63

    PROMOD63 Member

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    I have a 980 that i am going to try i ran it a few years ago and it just tore up alot of parts probably not the correct blower to learn on i guess so i bought a roots and got my feet wet noe i need to step up and want to pull this thing off the shelf and use it what can i expect out of it as far as boost ? What do i need to turn it ? Is it as good as some of the psi stuff ? Can i send it back and have it checked and recertified ?
     
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  2. jim phillips

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    get a new fuel system to go with it
     
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    bruce mullins Top Dragster

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    BLOWERS DON'T HURT PARTS!!!!!!!!!!!. . .tune ups do! ( or should I say the lack of a tune up)
     
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  4. PROMOD63

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    i got a red waterman pump and we will build all of the fuel system new for the whipple i just dont want to do all this and have it make less power than i could have if i spent some extra and got a psi or something
     
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  5. bruce mullins

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    the whipple was the blower of choice when they spun them at 60 percent.
     
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  6. JP

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    A whipple r980 with the built in injector at 60% was 48 pds boost on our car 521 bae 5 engine , with no change at all our new psi c blower makes 58pds at 119% so it will be a good to start but not a top of the line deal.
     
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  7. Dave Germain

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    Recerting a whipple?

    You mentioned in your post something about certifying it. I don't know there is anybody in the US that is recerting them? Next thought- why cert it? Are you going NHRA racing with this blower? I don't know they are legal there either. Dave Germain
     
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  8. PROMOD63

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    good point i really dont need it recertified ........ if it will make 48lbs at 60 over it will be fine for me to start with is this the max you can turn it ? i see in the earlier post the guy says his made 48 at 60 over and his psi made 58 at 112 over is this too much to turn a whipple? will i need to run a dribbler nosel in the port ? it had one on it when i used it before but we only had one port nosel on the littlefield ?
     
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  9. Mike Canter

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    Don't mean to piss on your shoes BUT.......Stop and think here how much damage you did before with that Whipple because you didn't have the correct tuneup. Now you are asking if you should have a dribbler so what you are saying is that you still don't know what fuel system setup to run which means you are going to damage parts again. Just because you have a red Waterman pump does not mean it flows enough fuel for 48-50 lbs of boost at zero feet in DA. A Waterman with .750 gears is probably not enough pump and you need a .800 or .900 gear pump. Would it not be cheaper to find a tuner that has setup fuel systems for a Whipple before and pay him to put a good fuel system on the car. A screw blower fuel system is not normally the same as a Rootes fuel system. It would be a lot cheaper just to pay somebody to get it set up then go out and have fun. Hope your shoes don't feel too damp.
     
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  10. overkill69

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    whipple

    Darren Mayer of DMPE is a big fan of the whipple. He might be a good contact. He can tell you how it compares to a psi or roots.

    Mike
     
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  11. PROMOD63

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    maybe i didnt make myself clear enough...... i am not going to set the fuel system up i am just trying to get a little info before i get a fuel system i have a local guy named Gary Saliene who is from bolivar missouri he will set it all up as well as dyno and tune it if the waterman pump is too small or if it needs different gears i am sure he will know when he is doing it i just wanted to know if i was going to waste time and money putting a blower on that would not give me the performance i wanted and if anyone had any reason to get rid of the whipple and go with a psi yes the engine that we kept hurting was misstuned but this is a whole different deal
     
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  12. CStep

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    Agreed , no need to re-cert if not needed but if for whatever reason you do whipple will now re-cert existing a/r980's.
     
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    like it was said several times above if the fuel system isnt right it can hurt a lot of parts even on the dyno when i said get a new fuel system i was referring to flowed fuel pump for the whipple with a tune up thats correct and safe so your good to go right out of the box im parcel to jimmy rector and there other good ones out there i just dont know personnally DMPE GORR TO NAME A FEW MIKE C. WILL KNOW MORE IM SURE AND BRUCE M. WILL TOO GOOD LUCK
     
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  14. JP

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    Last year whipple made a couple of post here, they claimed to be able to re-certify old units and had a new one on plans. i talked to them about certification and updates but I didnt make them.

    My fuel system was made by walt austin , it was just a 8 port nozzle with 4,4 hat nozzles staged. It needed a .950 gear pump , I would seriosly consider walt for your baseline fuel system....
     
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    thanks for the info !! i will have a system built and have the pump checked and flowed i think i can expect at least 45 lbs at 60 % which will be a large increase from what i have now it may not be as much as a psi but thats ok
     
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  16. Mike Canter

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    Remember it is not just boost that counts, it is also how little amount of HP it takes to drive a screw blower and the cooler air charge. 45 lbs of boost out of a Whipple is way more power than 45 lbs out of a Rootes blower.
     
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  17. Will Hanna

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    Aps

    Randy Anderson won a few world championships with a whipple charger. Wouldn't be a bad call to make. If you ever get a PSI, he can point you in the right direction there, too.
     
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    Same goes for a PSI, the whipple is easier to turn than the PSI also. Air temps come into play as well. I'm curious JP, what was the performance difference by switching to the PSI?

    Some have turned whipples as high as 100%, but that was on a sand dragster.
     
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  19. JP

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    Danny our old tafc ran 5.89 back in 2003 with the whipple at 60 over , we them built the promod and had to use a roots for a couple years last year we ran the whipple again for two dates and ran 6.3s it was a improvement over the roots. I have a buddy that runs a adrl and we both run the same engine combination his comb is tested so i bought a new "c" rotor we have seen incredible power and boost in the 2 test we have done but now are making big changes to the car in order to handle the new power.
     
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  20. turbo69camaro

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    You might talk to Jamond the 4.11 run only had 34lbs and the egt's were in the 850 range very soft safe and happy
     
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