air line to steering

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  1. sammy

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    1- Is it ok to run one 1/4 air supply line from the reglator to the steering air shifter valve (lenco) and split it just before to the 2 valves , or split directly a the out of the regulator and run 2 separate air supply line

    2- What is a good intake temp range for hemi with screw at 2.24 o.d . sender is in the front of intake.

    Thanks

    Sammy
     
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  2. Bob Meyer

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    No, use nothing larger than -3!
    1/4" gives volume, but less pressure.
    And yes, then you can "T" it to the valves.

    Bob
     
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    ???huh????
     
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  4. Bob Meyer

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    ???

    John; same reasoning as your fuel system or brake line, 1/4" doesn't belong there either, especially hose.

    i.e. you want volume to your pump and barrell valve, so you have larger lines, but to make pressure to your nozzles you dam sure wouldn't use 1/4" hoses (or hard lines). Air or liquid, same principal applies.
     
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  5. LeWhite

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    WOW. ? did I hear that one correctly?
     
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    3 is reference to what size you lost me some where there i have always had what appears to be 1/4" stuff i could be wrong though break it down for dummys at math
     
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  7. Bob Meyer

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    Aircraft =AN #'s in 1/16th increments.......
    -3 = 3/16"
    -4 = 1/4"
    -5 = 5/16" (bolts, but no common fittings)
    -6 = 3/8"
    on and on
    -20 = 1-1/4"

    I believe the original question concerned getting the most pressure to the shift pods, that would be accomplished by using -3 lines or 5/32" plastic (not my favorite), but I suppose I forgot my usual disclaimer "I'm just a welder"
     
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    thanks then i probly have the 3/16 it just looked like 1/4 never really thought about it much now i know for sure thanks bob
     
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  9. LeWhite

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    AN dash numbers reference O.D.
    but fluid goes thru the inside (usually) soos dash 3 is prolly something a round about pretty near kinda like an eighth. And Dave said dash four.
     
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  10. Bob Meyer

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    Sorry, but I'm a little anal on this stuff. A -3 hose through the sleeve is #44 drill =.088.
    And who's Dave, Daves not here man... (Cheech and Chong):D
    All this relates back 30 some years when one of my car customers wouldn't spring for hard lines on his new car. Then bitched because it wouldn't stop. I finally got to see his car, and he had a 8' long -4 hose from master cyl. to "T" and more -4 to the calipers. I told him to pinch the main line with his fingers as hard as he could while I pushed the lever. His eyes got very big, he then understood volume VS pressure. Same principle applys in both air or liquid. But of course volume has it's place too, which is why a 5/8" master cyl. is too small. In other words, thought goes a long way.
     
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  11. LeWhite

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    Dave aint here cause he is at work at lenco. Remember the original question? He sez and i'm not quoting "-3 is too small and it'll burn up your clutches. -4 is what you need It'll get pressure to the pistons quicker". My guess is the CO2 bottle has more fluid then a brake master.
     
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    -4 works BUT, then we had to put a restriction(jet) in the line so it wouldn't snatch the tires on the shift.
     
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  13. LeWhite

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    restrictor

    Don't restrict the feed. Remove and dissamble the pod and tapl a 1/4 x 32 near the bottom of the pod and screw a holly main jet in . .070 is hinda a hard hit and .050 is a little softer. I don't know what it will take to burn up YOUR clutches.
     
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  14. sammy

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    The question was : is there any difference of splitting lines directly out of the regulator and running 2 lines to the valves VS running 1 line and splitting just before the valves .
     
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    i split my lines at the steering wheel- I havent ever seen anybody run two lines from the regulator to the shift buttons. Dave Germain
     
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    Sammy; got a little off track here. Just think about it, one regulator, two valves. A "T" is a "T" no matter where you put it.
     
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    Son; where did this story come from then?:rolleyes:

    Maybe you should ask Dave the name of the old fart that built and plumbed every Lenco race car they ever had. Once you find out, you'll know what size was used.
     
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    BOB

    your my kinda guy to the point no bullshit this is the way you need to do it enough said ( LOL )
     
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    Thanks Jim. Been doing this stuff for 53 years now, and while I'm resting my feet, if I can help someone, I will try.
    Most people don't seem to realize how I learned this crap, I know what dumb is, 'cause I've already done it, sometimes more than once........
    But, because there will always be smarter people than me, I like to use my disclaimer "I'm just a welder" with free advise. No B.S.
     
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    Dear Dad:
    You'r my kinda guy too. But I didn't make this stuff up, about the line size and all. That's what they told me honest. Maybe they told me because you plumbed their cars, maybe despite it. I don't know. And Mom says you haven't been sending your support payments. But we love you anyway.
    Sincerely your son LeWhite
     
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